On October 28, 2015 8:06:12 PM Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 18:51:13 -0700 Shelley <shelley@misanthropia.org> wrote:
On October 28, 2015 6:15:39 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
This is getting embarrassing for "the West" - the so called moral high ground of the West, never existed. Even Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed -after- Japan had surrendered, just that America insisted on humiliation of unconditional surrender.
You're absolutely right. We USians (or Americunts, as Juan says, which always makes me laugh in agreement),
disclaimer of sorts : I don't mean to offend *all* americans. Only the nationalistic type =P (and I fully realize Shelley doesn't belong in that category)
No offense taken! :) Actually, I agree with you. A lot of people deserve that label here. I laughed because I'm always referring to Demoncraps and Rethuglicunts :D
only have propaganda "textbooks" in school. It's not unless/until we are fortunate enough to stumble upon Howard Zinn's books or develop critical thinking skills, despite their best efforts at indoctrination, that we truly see.
for what it's worth, when I first got interested in political philosophy, I foolishly assumed that the US were a 'free society'. It took me a while to gauge the distance between libertarian rhetoric and reality...
Yes, we thought so too. That's what they still keep telling us! It'd be funny if it weren't so sad. Side note: someone questioned the use of the word fascism in regards to the USA? Isn't corporate control of the government the very definition of it? Call it a corporatocracy, if you like that better. I call it a demockracy. -S
http://russia-insider.com/en/documents-reveal-west-plotted-false-flag-justif...
" In 1957, it was PG-13 “border clashes”. Now we have “government chemical weapons attacks against orphans” "
I wonder where our CIA apologists are now ... Z
I'm not sure how seriously to take Russia-insider as I haven't looked into it enough, but this would hardly be surprising. They were still on a roll from taking out the democratically elected leader of Iran, Mossadeq, in 1953. How many years was it before this was common knowledge?
It's despicable. Now, as then.
(I don't often comment on politics. Feeling sassy tonight, I guess. Heh.)
-S