hi dal

On Tue, Apr 12, 2022, 11:11 PM <dal@riseup.net> wrote:
Hi Karl,

You mentioned on the list something about prioritizing EEG testing. You

yayay EEG :)

envision because maybe to monitor phone EEG requires certain types of

i'm on the fence about phones for doing this. dangerous devices but they're common and tend to have pre-existing software. big opportunity for data corruption with so much going on in a phone. but they can also access a blockchain.

EEG measuring gadgets. I think it's something people in the world would
care about, nobody really wants shooting

oh let's do it

wars except when they're really
angry and lashing out and can't think of how

not sure what you're referring to


calm down safely and sufficiently to cease lashing out, anger, etc.

There's that famous John Lennon song "Imagine" about "Imagine all the
people living life in peace" and I think hippies usually don't hear the
"ALL the people" part which is what probably strikes the ears of

I don't know why anybody would think soldiers aren't included. Hippies really do mean ALL the people. Really, even soldiers.

I thought the anger was because soldiers perceived the hippies as if they wanted to not defend people who are in danger. This can be an easy miscommunication as hippies are rarely aware of any reasons for war.

soldiers. I would like to learn what cypherpunks list people sincerely
hear in that sentence line of Lennon's, like which phrases are most
salient for them?

When I hear you speak of spreading, reason-oriented calm, I feel calm.

I had a funny experience getting on a bus a while back. I was polite
getting on and paid the fare in old-fashioned currency. I sat up front
and became a good Kool-Aid drinker of the bus-driver's little
many-wheeled fiefdom. Then someone

"This bus is my kingdom! An extension of my body. Be one as my parts." Everybody needs a small kingdom, I suppose.

attempted to board the vehicle as it
was just past time for departure. This messed-up guy didn't have enough
money and seemed a bit out of sorts. The bus-driver chewed him out.

"I'm trying to make the traffic jam disperse and lengthen the schedule so you can get to the next stop on time, but all I can hear is this couple fighting and it's so bumpy back here!"

Normally I would have rooted for the messed-up guy, this disabled and
poor person, but because I had paid and
boarded successfully, I felt a
little full of myself, which made a Kool-Aid drinker of this
bus-driver's many-wheeled fiefdom. Things like this happen to all of us.

This strange experience that of two people struggling in very different ways, one could be more right than another.

Kool-Aid.

[of course the disabled person is more in need, it's the political influence affecting our feelings and habits]

So then I reminded myself of things I was grateful for and enjoyed the

This is nice :)

view of the ride. I hope we can all do these things, all of us
Earthlings, so that all those words of Lennon's come true, not just the
parts some political factions prefer over others.

we need our religions (in moderation), but it's clear that lennon meant absolutely no harm, he just had his zeitgeist. i'm sure soldiers might claim that we need our war, and also couch it with moderation.

I really would like the list's sincere thoughts on this. So often, it's
just people being angry and smug and sarcastic and attacking at each
other. And I'm not sure that's really helping the world. Maybe it does
in the short-run here or there but not so much in the long run.

do you mean to include eeg?

I love your idea of keeping peace through kool-aid. Combined with EEG. This idea seems quite helpful.

I use a muse headband, very comfortable for long use, very few eeg channels, unencrypted, uses an ascii serial control protocol and bluetooth. It has a meditation app which I've disassembled once for protocol details but never used.

The meditation app helps one experience calm I infer.