Hi grarpamp. I appreciate your passion for the cypherpunks list, and your contributions so it. For your request below: In short, it is my belief that subscribers who don't want to see content from other subscribers are expected to have the capability to block those subscribers from their personal mailboxes. Every email system I know of can do this quite easily. In the long-ago times, people like Tim May called these a kill list. "Welcome to my kill list" was often heard. It was part of my welcome to the cypherpunks, back around the year 2000. At this point in time, the stresses on mail delivery I first reported here in September is still creating delivery delays for gmail users. However, I have observed that even on days with just a few cypherpunks messages (and none from Karl, for example), Google's mail servers complain & delay delivery. Many gmail users have been automatically unsubscribed as a result. This is unfortunate, but it would not be fixed by banning or censoring the people mentioned below. Instead, the solution is for those subscribers to not use their @gmail.com addresses to receive the list. There are plenty of other free email providers. I hear that protonmail.ch works reasonably well. I did make one configuration change last fall, and reported it here: the list now has a cap of 24 posts in any 24 hours. Karl, in particular, has adjusted his output accordingly. Further discussion on any of these topics is welcome. Best regards to you and all cypherpunks subscribers. ~ Greg On Fri, Jan 05, 2024 at 01:07:27AM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
These spammers are continuing to spam the list. These accounts are both doing nothing but robotic spamming, flooding users mailboxes, blowing out the archives, spamming identical copies many tens of times, spewing gibberish, making no point or commentary, running bots, spamming other non subscribers into the list, etc. THOUSANDS of SPAM, MONTH after MONTH they SPAM... And they have admitted willful intent to destroy the list. One spampsychobot itself "Gunnar". Another spampsychobot calls itself "Karl". All have condemned their spam. As before, the internet has long since decided that such spammers have no right to inflict such abuse on lists. And rate limiting spammers does not solve the problem.
So, this time, do your job Greg...
The Internet has provided three options for list operators...
1) You must kick these spammers accounts off the list. 2) You must set the moderation flag on these spammers accounts and deal with and filter them out yourself. 3) You must move these spammers accounts off to a separate new list that you create for them alone.
So take your pick of the above options and do your job Greg.