there was a recent set of [2023-10-16 1936 ET] CVEs regarding bitcoin lightning network. i haven't more than glanced at them yet, but their discuss a vulnerability in lightning that can provide for compromise of the integrity of funds. somebody pointed out some years ago what others already knew, which is that lightning does not have the level of security of [2023-10-16 1938 ET] .... anyway, long story short, bitcoin has been stuck in a draft state for years now, likely because of the heavy addition of profit and political motives to its influences. now, i could adopt some unpleasantly affect and come in, arrogance blazing, and propose a better protocol (and i imagine many have tried to do this), but honestly i am too muddled with dissociative stuff to actually do that accurately anymore. how might you do it, if you didn't have an obsessive cryptohacker to write you beyond-classified secure constructs like used to be the norm in community research? how would you do it, if you were a crazy messed up confused person, like me? [2023-10-16 19:40] ... a little sadly, the security of these things is similar to (i happen to be playing chess these days) a chess game. you have to actually think of all the ways something can be broken, and address them. there are a few rules of thumb, too. these rules of thumb were commonly known in the 90s and 00s on lists like this one, but [obviously things are different]. but it's something like: - assume it's possible. everything can be broken: everything can be secured: -- you keep finding ways to break it and addressing them until you get so deep into how things can be broken that nobody would try to do it in your current environment -- you watch the changes in the environment and _UPDATE THE DESIGN_ to address them (bitcoin stopped updating its design.) - keep the solution simple that's ... roughly it ;P so, lightning is not simple -- [2023-10-16 19:44 ET] it fundamentally changes the security model associated with bitcoin [sending this as-is, most thoughts didn't make it at this time, [important ideas might include that among politics, security, and profit, the different focuses interact and do different things, and that the obvious solution to bitcoin's issues is to obviously to use shared distribution like bittorrent and [strong eventually-consistent cryptography that can address global consensus at a later time?]] 2023-10-23