On Wednesday, October 30, 2019, 06:14:17 PM PDT, Punk - Stasi 2.0
I see 1777 messages from "jimbell@pacifier.com" - the first one
>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 95 23:03:56 PST - Subject: Solution for US/Foreign Software?
> last one : Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 11:47:41 +0800 - Subject: Re: Rwanda and "anarchy"
> here's a funny one...from worthless piece of shit perry metzger...
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"From: "Perry E. Metzger"
From the beginning, I claimed that AP, once successfully implemented, would complete eliminate the need for, and even the possibility of, militaries, war, and nuclear weapons. Has anybody else thought of another idea to accomplish that? Has my claim ever been successfully challenged? Or even SERIOUSLY challenged? Not here, to my knowledge, Does ANY of you have an argument why an AP-type system won't, or can't, eliminate all nuclear weapons? 24 years after I wrote it, does the average protesting IDIOT have any idea that somebody has actually described the solution to the problem he claims to desire? A solution he hasn't been told about, not because it wouldn't work, but instead because it WOULD work. Does anybody, NOW, 24 years later, believe that my AP concept was, is, or should be, "off-topic" on the Cypherpunks list? Has a more-important idea for the future of mankind ever been discussed on Cypherpunks? Step right up and claim it! What is the ultimate purpose of Cypherpunks but to try to eliminate the problems that government surely causes? The Federal Government began to spy on me within weeks, and probably not more than a few days, after I had published Part 1 of my AP essay on Digitaliberty. Want to hear more? See my 2003 lawsuit, http://cryptome.org/jdb/jdb-v-usa-oct2004.pdf at least Claims 45-49. The Government committed dozens of felonies in order to further harass me and illegally keep me locked up. http://cryptome.org/jdb/jdb-v-usa-oct2004.pdf See Claims 504 onward. I think that time has been far more kind to my rhetorical position than other people's. Prior to the existence of TOR and Bitcoin, some people might have doubted that pieces necessary to implement AP were likely to become available. (I'm not saying that TOR or Bitcoin is suitable; merely that their existence points the way to the eventual existence of AP as a functioning goal, using other tools more suitable to the task.) Now, does anybody on Cypherpunks claim that the technical background of AP could never be implemented? The best they can do is to claim that governments won't ALLOW AP to be implemented, because they know they will be the first targets.
Remember what I said at the beginning of Part 2 of my AP essay: "Part 2 "At the Village Pizza shop, as they were sitting down to consume a pepperoni, Dorothy asked Jim, 'So what other inventions are you working on?" Jim replied, 'I've got a new idea, but it's really evolutionary. Literally REVOLUTIONARY.' 'Okay, Jim, which government are you planning to overthrow?,' she asked, playing along. 'All of them,' answered Jim." " This conversation actually occurred, although somewhere along the way the correct "revolutionary" somehow got changed to "evolutionary". No, I said "revolutionary" TWICE, and I genuinely meant it. I was in Roslyn, Washington, the small town that the TV show 'Northern Exposure' was filmed. Look at the beginning credits, and you will see it: "Village Pizza". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKDzDA-jgRs at 1:32 I was there, sitting next to "Dorothy H.". For at least 5 years I visited there in one day in early July to meet with other Northern Exposure fans, "Dorothy H." was one, and without intending to, she gave me one of the most fantastic and appropriate straight-lines in the history of conversation. Oddly, as I said, "All of them", the pizza came...And Dorothy never learned what my "revolutionary" idea was! But probably days later, I wrote of the incident in Part 2 of the AP essay. And no, the combination of Ethereum and Augur is not, YET, AP. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17611585 "Its not Jim Bell's Assassination Politics but we're getting there." (And no, I didn't write that, and I don't know who did.) But the difference is merely the choice of those implementing Augur, not a fundamental limitation of the technology. The people who claim to be on the Cypherpunks, ostensibly to help, need to start considering reality. Jim Bell