---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ryan Carboni <ryacko@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:15 AM Subject: Re: 2 WikiLeaks questions To: dal@riseup.net Woah, woah, woah. Back up. The Palestinians started this whole mess by trying to kick the Jews out in the 1947 civil war, while there were Jewish attacks on British institutions, the Arabs committed the bulk of the violence. The only feasible peace process is for the Palestinians to integrate into the Israeli community, which is impossible because any moves towards a peace process will get you assassinated in the Middle East (Sadat, Rabin). Furthermore, wikileaks made it too obvious that they were pawns of Russian intelligence, they post a form letter from McCain to the Russian Ambassador asking for donations? They cavort with a Russian lawyer? If you behave as an enemy to US interests, US interests will treat you the same (and if you read the Rancid Honeytrap, you'll be surprised at the extent of US penetration into US society). Wikileaks should have towed a strict moralistic line making it clear they should not receive an appropriate response. It's too bad the US intelligence community insults their own employees intelligence. The only reason why they don't want leaks is because once something is leaked, it becomes OSINT, not HUMINT. And HUMINT gets expensive, and the last thing you want is explain to an intelligence committee why Botswana is equally effective at intelligence as you. But if they advertise to their employees that being loyal is a pointless endeavor, that'll just drive down the price of espionage. It's really a silly thing. Ultimately, if wikileaks wanted to enact positive change, as opposed to behaving like narcissistic morons, well, it's too late for that. But obviously don't stick your penis into a white woman who's anti-Castro. Young white people don't give a damn about Castro. Only the CIA cares about Castro. Wikileaks got what it deserved.