On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 6:14 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
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> On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 17:55:09 +0100
> Stefan Claas <spam.trap.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 5:44 PM zeynepaydogan
> > <zeynepaydogan@protonmail.com> wrote:
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> > > https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/chaoscomputerclub-kongress-101.html
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> > > Auch in diesem Jahr findet der Kongress des Chaos Computer Clubs wegen der Pandemie lediglich digital statt. Das Thema IT-Sicherheit steht diesmal im Mittelpunkt - aber auch, wie man Hacker besser schützen kann, die Sicherheitsmängel melden.
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> > Thanks Zeynep,
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> > IMHO there will be never IT security because devices for digital communications
> > and their software are *consumer* goods.
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> There will never be security for the users because the manufacturer is the government. Jim Bell's government.
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> > Hacker's may think of 'renaming' their status and become officially
> > penetration testers.
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> Exactly. They are just govcorp turds working for govcorp.
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> > Regarding the CCC. I remember them from the beginning and remember from that
> > time that they had also 'moles' among them,
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> shocking.
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> > without knowing it and nowadays, they stay in bed with our political parties and main stream media, so it seems. For real hackers IMHO a no go.
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> indeed, it doesn't take much research to learn that the CCC is just a branch of the CIA.

I like to add to this, that my guess is, due to those above-mentioned
design flaws,
that only Hacker Units from Russia, China, North Korea etc. can
'survive', because
they are IMHO somehow protected.

And for a nice reading about a hacker or as a movie, if people still can get it,
I recommend Clifford Stoll's book.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cuckoo%27s_Egg_(book)

Regards
Stefan