On 04/07/2015 06:44 PM, Cari Machet wrote:
mirimir i would have to dig up the quote where the fuck says that basically it is good us is invading to get back at the iraqi's for 9-11
Please do. I don't believe that he could ever have said that. It's inconceivable. I can imagine that he might have opined that the Hussein regime had to go. But I don't believe that he was ever dumb enough to go for the 9-11 bullshit.
umn the iraqi's had nothing to do with 9-11 and he swallowed that tripe... i am sorry but that is just stupid x 5 million
They obviously didn't. But you need a cite for your claim about him.
i dont care about his excuses my pet spider even knew it was crap
I blame it on the Saudi Caliphate backers. They fucking nailed it :(
if you can give him a pass for being 'apathetic' which i wouldnt frame it like that then that says a lot about you - its not apathy to support a fucking invasion of a people - people that are apathetic are like i dont know not oh yay lets do it it is a totally different mindset
I'm a very practical guy :)
and that he is here in daily kos framing out this lie says more to me about his lack of character than anything and you of course didnt address that part - if the fuck was an actual person he could be like yay i sucked but now i know better i changed its so great we get to change our minds in our lifetimes and fucking grow but does gleenny do that no he cant face himself its pathetic he lives in his ego
You have a point ;)
ego doesnt want people saying they are wrong ever and its a death echo chamber
I agree.
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 04/07/2015 11:50 AM, Cari Machet wrote:
dear mirimir you cannot read
'Nonetheless, because of the general faith I had in political and media institutions, I assumed - since both political parties and media outlets and journalists from across the ideological spectrum were united in support of the war - that there must be some valid basis to the claim that Saddam posed a threat. My basic trust in these institutions neutralized the objections I had and led me to passively acquiesce to what was being done ("I believed then that the president was entitled to have his national security judgment deferred to, and to the extent that I was able to develop a definitive view, I accepted his judgment that American security really would be enhanced by the invasion of this sovereign country.").'
did you read the motherfucking article?
Yes, I read the motherfucking article. He says that he was apathetic, and trusted institutions (and even that asshole W). Maybe he needs to do more mea culpas for that, or cut off his left pinkie. But unless you cite some public statement where he actively supported the invasion, rather than just deferred to arguably better-informed opinions, it's no big deal in the current context. In my opinion.
this should tell you how duplicitous he is just like the government says he didnt do anything - he didnt fuck that bitch - oh he fucked them hard though
I'd say rather that he let Uncle Dick finger fuck him, but just a little ;)
also daily kos sucks
Yeah, I don't read that shit.
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Razer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 04/06/2015 10:29 PM, Juan wrote:
Well, everything should have been put in the public domain from day zero. But Snowden thought that would hurt the interests of the american nazi state. Or maybe he didn't want to be killed like a dog. Who knows.
I know. As many people who've attempted to change the Crypto-Fascist shithole called "America" have noted, the powers that be ARE TOO STRONG to take on... head on.
Snowden has set in motion The 'death of a thousand (intelligence) cuts' to weaken the surveillance state enough that the issue can be approached at all in some way that MAY change it.
As far as whether Greenwald and co or Snowden's a capitalist, or a libertard, a demoncrat or rethuglican (the ONLY diff is who receives the booty from our imperial adventurism where brown people die) ...is absolutely irrelevant to the end result.