-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 my replies below On 08/02/2015 08:54 AM, Lodewijk andré de la porte wrote:
We will not get 50% of the population to use semi-good-crypto. Far more than that just do not give any damns at all.
This is probably true... on the other hand, looking at the flip side of this (referring to software side... the textsecure / stuff based on textsecure implemented in WhatsApp on massive scale) has worked for people on a massive scale who don't give much of a damn but who do care enough to use software with a privacy label and is easy to use. And I think that works to the benefit of the public. This makes me think that if the hardware is similarly easy to use (or at least easier for the user) then it will be easier to present the open source hardware as a benefit. The fact is that the OSH/SC (open source hardware / software communities) really have kind of sucked at marketing. That should chang e.
Legal protection for those that make insecure shit is so huge that society is literally stacked against privacy as a whole.
Agreed.
The "protected-consumer" culture has led to widespread market failure - rather than think people buy with their hearts. Simply put, "Think Different" turned into "Don't think at all".
That said, I don't see why there's no company attempting to address the niche of "I want it truly secure". Wouldn't governments like if the US doesn't spy on them? Wouldn't large companies' officers be very happy with a secure e-mail/voice call system?
If it runs Android apps (protip: Android's JVM is open source) in a more secure manner (like, uhm, in-hardware-sandboxing? Libre Hypervisor CPU with the OS on it, and a jailed EvilCorp coprocessor that does the Android stuff?) it doesn't seem to take that much to build a smartphone nowadays (looking at Chinaphones, that is).
And, many of the people that want it "truly secure" will understand that the products will cost more than a mass-produced NSA sponsored unit.
This makes a lot of sense, and I'm guessing that the smaller scale projects we've seen so far are indicative that this can happen at small to medium scale without problem for specific clients or anticipated customer base. Here are some successful examples: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page (refer also to http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/Hardware/Phones and http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/) https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/novena http://vr-zone.com/articles/novena-open-laptop-project-exceeds-280-perce nt-crowd-funding-target/77905.html TBD, but looks pretty good (same concept as Novena): https://puri.sm/ And of course, see: https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/respects-your-freedom These are by no means the only examples of open source hardware being marketed to a larger public, albeit at a limited production scale for the time being. It definitely is a market which is in need of attention . - -- http://abis.io ~ "a protocol concept to enable decentralization and expansion of a giving economy, and a new social good" https://keybase.io/odinn -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVvm1LAAoJEGxwq/inSG8CtcQH/RGY5uoPXZ5QYbe2up9kVIQc lvjjWV2GmISSxUo11vZi0pPpEXcy5aRrCIJ0mho+TcDovzFXbj2m50y24GXF5wLr aVn/YHIsGTQWyXYQmYsBnR1dD0iKIQfqNZlK/OrYTwATlBtpAqP5QJGmyJK2wFHQ sZWWB1xnnKQxhrxGx3UeGa5wwtAWx5kA9KC7Rj1c5+JMi4U9DVCb3/LXoYHc8GnE W7Q9HCNdNl6ErwNeuU1nnoWHi49uH8wjjSXXn+erTb1kTzjM4L8Rn0NE4J8wpKMT MbTINoCfkgxi0Him9MStbOcjrrOMHBFing3HQXuQZNDGkmv7e3hXCtyXL+OjezI= =oOG2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----