-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03/08/2017 01:06 AM, juan wrote:
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 00:37:13 -0500 Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
Sounds reasonable if NSA was involved: But this show was billed as an FBI production, and I don't think the NSA ventures into law enforcement territory.
well, this isn't exactly news...
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/dea-and-nsa-team-intelligence-l aundering
or was your remark sarcastic? =P
Good point: I was mostly serious, though of course I would never imagine that clandestine security services "obey the law" just because it's the law - the reason they are "clandestine" is to enable them to break the law at will. The FBI and the military intelligence services have traditionally been rivals, very protective of the boundaries defining their respective turfs. But now that the FBI enforces U.S. law against foreign nationals on foreign soil - a rather bizarre development - it is easy to imagine that mechanisms for routine integration of FBI and NSA functions have developed. The example above - NSA and DEA working hand in hand - may not be the most relevant indicator though. Back when Phil Agee went walkabout and wrote Inside The Company, there was a firestorm of controversy and Congress yanked the CIA's leash hard by slashing budgets for U.S. terrorist operations in South and Central America. At that time the DEA stepped in and took up the slack, as it was well positioned to bypass Congress and fund its own operations by dealing drugs. Since the 1970s the DEA has been ass deep in political warfare overseas, so I think it is reasonable to presume that they have a long standing BFF relationship with both CIA and NSA. FBI? Maybe, maybe not, but on reflection I do think it's likely that barriers between that organization and NSA etc. are falling fast, if not already completely gone. All that said, I do think the method the FBI says it used to bust the Playpen trash would have been both practical, more cost effective and easier to sell as "legal" in Court than farming it out to the NSA. :o) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJYwERbAAoJEECU6c5XzmuqQyYIALkWZCxhx6XG9uxupnVdvCqK hPHL8i6wmUw+OO+PcwqoMQF/gfZaG3Nofvljse6ZOX8T0z82hFTlDNsBT09CY5ef xA6vC2gOSb7jMF7YP+XuzI9GFk5emx12VQUQWkjG/xQpM+NfzZwUilnwArYjwgKL 7CVBo/9tXRUuIdE+bORZH9aSzx1KhuT5lR7HhoFfGYJcZkBBs12+Pw23QZBoC3/D fSTERw7ofMOsdwcT4vigF2NnhgEP17TFRWEFIPGnOm21m9py63n9l2KzXd4XuGJW 7343IaUeL8FSGwUi4x2ZQGVACuSXhW+7CxxonfGDcwco60tstZpBMNev8cSjQpM= =lLcr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----