On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 01:50:31AM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
And I can conceive of no possible AP system "which cannot be turned against honest people".
Is it forgotten that...
- No one but a troll, random or intentional, will list innocent people.
Some trolls stole the power to print unlimited fiats. In the theoretical AP system: - The listing is anonymous. - The funding is anonymous. - The assassin/ collector of the funds is anonymous. How could a sociopathic "unlimited fiats printer" troll, not love and adore such a system?
- No assassin, but pure psycho or profiteer, will murder innocent people.
Some mercs are pure profiteers, without consideration for the lives they take. The most successful assassins are like this. The most successful assassins, shall therefore be the most successful at seizing the profits from AP.
That leading AP implementations are likely to have message boards, research wikis, etc that will decry as no-go's any honest people listed. That there is no point to such listings.
The most successful assassins are not empathic rainbow embracing flower girls, they are cold blooded, emotionless killers who get the job done for the listed price, and stay anonymous. The most successful hierarchy climbers sieze control of the fiat printing, at any arbitrary sociopathic cost, and therefore need by the only "funder/ gambler" (anonymous) for the sole listing they list themselves (also anonymously). Again, for a fiat printing troll, what's not to love?
And that in any society, whether today without AP, or tomorrow with AP, both of those cases are so rare as to be background noise.
Assumption. False assumption. Sociopaths are sociopathic for a reason (they're sociopathic, and in this nature stop at nothing to achieve their power and fiat printing).
Just as "News at 11: A Gun Murder" is but noise compared to most accidental and preventable deaths. (Stop watching the news, it is programming your brain to believe, and do, fake shit.)
The ministry, especially in a strong anonymity network, and with unlimited fiat printing, has no shortage of options for sending messages to families, coworkers, friends, the entire world, when a dissident steps out of line.
Whereas doing the math on the trivial amount of funds a few million donors across the internet would have to contribute to an AP function to spread a little convincing love towards the top and littorals of governments... that such listings are full of point.
Possibly that is the way the balance would go, and the "fiat trolls and all around angry bastards" vs "honourable masses" arms race would balance tip over into "a better world". Possibly. And possibly there will not be a disastrous worse and worserer world which we have to share afterwards. Possibly.