Dnia poniedziałek, 11 sierpnia 2014 17:24:08 Juan pisze:
On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 11:13:10 +0200
rysiek <rysiek@hackerspace.pl> wrote:
Dnia wtorek, 5 sierpnia 2014 20:31:26 Juan pisze:
On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 00:19:17 +0200
rysiek <rysiek@hackerspace.pl> wrote:
One of the things I have learnt during the years of my brushing shoulders with Teh Gummint (public consultations, conferences, etc) is that a huge bureaucracy like a government is bound to have conflicting interests and fund/take conflicting actions.
Governments are not homogeneous, to say the least.
Governments are pretty homoneneous criminal organizations.
The fact that sometimes different government factions within a
given government quarrel a bit over the spoils is basically meaningless, from the point of view of government victims at least.
Well, obviously you haven't much experience with how governments look from the inside.
...but I do have some inside information about the 'legal system', having been raised by lawyers =P
Ministries and departments have different and conflicting policies regarding some of their overlapping responsibilities, and the flow of information is a real problem. Add to that some personal animosities and ambitions and you get a clusterfuck of an organisation.
Yes, all of that is true. I am aware of the fact that there are different factions inside a government. I did explicitly mention that. It doesn't affect my argument(s) though.
A clusterfuck leaving quite a lot of space for projects like Tor.
Sorry, but that's circular.
You *assume* tor isn't designed as a tool to further imperial american policies and you arrive at the conclusion that there are some 'good guys' in the US government.
No, I didn't say there are any "good guys" (nor that there aren't any, mind you). But even between a clusterfuck of "bad guys", each dragging in their own direction, simply *because* they are dragging all in different directions, there might be space for some neat projects. Think of it as a hack on the system. Guy A needs total secrecy of communication for their moles in third world countries and finances a tool that incidentally is a huge PITA for guy B, that tries to surveil everything and everybody. Guy A and guy B are far enough from each other (system/hierarchy/department/competence-wise) that they do not co-operate, nor even know of each other too well. Or: they know of each other and are in a state of "cold war" for resources or ambition-related aims. -- Pozdr rysiek