On November 6, 2019 4:27:06 AM UTC, "Punk - Stasi 2.0" <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Wed, 06 Nov 2019 03:31:29 +0000 John Newman <jnn@synfin.org> wrote:
On November 5, 2019 10:41:28 PM UTC, "Punk - Stasi 2.0"
<punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
too bad there was no 'big bang explosion' - that's pseudo scientific garbage from the jew-kristian creationists who have merely repackaged their creationist bullshit.
Wait, you don't believe in the standard model of physics?
wait, you believe the ridiculous big bang bullshit, which, I should have added, comes from a fucking CATHOLIC PRIEST? =)
If Lemaitre hadn't noticed it, someone else would've. The big bang theory is a result of observations of our expanding, red-shifted universe. All sorts of observations back up the general idea, e.g. cosmic background radiation. Do I believe that the universe actually started from a literal "big bang"? I have no idea, it seems odd. What was there before the big bang? There are other models, but at minimum it's an extraordinarily useful scientific model.
I mean, it's just a model, and it has problems. But it also has had
amazing
predictive capability, and it's real science.
not sure what you mean by 'standard model of physics' but it should be
The standard model of particle physics (which actually excludes quantum mechanics) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model
obvious that 'cosmology' and all the pseudo philosophic charlatanry around 'quantum mechanics' is not 'real science'(TM) at all.
How is it obvious that quantum mechanics is not "real science"? We don't have a working unified field theory or a quantum model of gravity, but quantum mechanic effects have been observed in a variety of ways. Though, I wouldn't vouch for any of the current crop of so-called "quantum computers" ;)
Anyway, it has fuck all to do with religion. Einstein was ethnically
Jewish, but
he was also a genius. And an agnostic person of no particular religious
I didnt have einstein in mind but lemaitre. But of course einstein being an european jew puts him straight into the religious creationist nutcase category, at least nominally. And he subscribed to the big bang bullshit? oh wait... =)
He was a European Jew - so the fuck what? So were however many millions that died in the Holocaust. I brought Einstein up specifically because he was ethnically Jewish, but he was not a religious guy. He was a scientist, and his early work helped pave the way for the idea of the big bang. I don't know what he thought about the big bang, although he pretty much hated quantum mechanics ;). The difference between all this and religion should be clear. It's based on research, math, observation. It isn't absurd dogma handed down in some crappy priest-fic to dominate a certain part of the population. Should we say that giving the universe an age of 13.8 billion years (based on scientific shit like the big bang), or 6000 years (based on adding up the ages of the fucking patriarchs in the bible ;) are both ridiculous fantasy numbers from the jewish-kkkristians in charge?
faith (I think he identified with Spinoza a little bit, pantheism, which is hard to call religious belief).