On 5/8/15, dans@openmailbox.org <dans@openmailbox.org> wrote:
Good news I guess, a small victory.
However I think that is just a simbolic victory, useful only to make more people to become aware about surveillance. With the new technologies and with all the infrastucture already done record and collect the metadata of the phones is too easy, too cheap, too tempting to don't do it. And NSA will continuous doing it.
In the other hand I can understand that the civil libertys groups of US take care of US citizens, but can any american take care of the people of other countrys? We can't legally apeal to any court of US, and we are under US goverment's surveillance too.
Do you mean "we as in individuals, can't appeal to a USA court to protect the liberty of an individual who is not a USA citizen and not physically in the USA"? Let's get clear on the assumptions and challenge them lest assumptions, apathy and a desire for others do your work for you ("someone's -really- gotta fix 'my chosen problem'") get's a hold of your go button and won't let go :) An individual can make a claim to a court, if they have standing in that court. Simplistically this means a USA citizen can make a claim (begin a case) in a USA court (things like age limits etc come into play of course). But there's no point making a claim (e.g. for injunction or for damages) unless the authority (eg a court) that you appeal to has authority over your target. Authority in this case also means that your chosen court has authority in the jurisdiction of your claim; that is, you must make your claim in respect of the appropriate law(s) for the court you have chosen - e.g. a lowly Magistrates' Court generally can not (or at least, will not) make rulings in respect of the constitution, nor of common law. I don't know about any individual trying to take care of the "liberty of the people of other countries" but an individual USA citizen may be able to make a claim against a USA citizen or some part or member of the USA government in respect of (your "alleged") illegal "foreign" activities. An individual backed by 100 other individuals in a class action may experience greater success. Every problem has a solution, but just may require thinking outside the box. IANAL, IANA USA citizen, IANA USA resident.