On 09/08/2016 06:59 PM, John Newman wrote:
Is holding that there is poor evidence for 6 million, and reasonable evidence for ~2.X million, and that the USA concentration camps were no better in some cases worse, the gulag another equally "fun" place to be,
I didn’t even notice this bit earlier.
You are wrong. Things were UGLY everywhere during ww2, but there is AMPLE evidence for a number close to 6 million. My god, why would you even wade into this fucking toxic subject? (why am i??)
If you could pick Auschwitz or one of the internment camps in the US, where would you go? Yes, fuck the US for its shameless behavior during ww2… but double-fuck Germany.
Talking about this makes my stomach turn.
John
Well, I do defend the right to discuss it. Not here, because it's off-topic. Unless we want to talk about IBM's role, supplying technology for tracking Jews and other "undesirables". And how suitable crypto could have permitted the collection of aggregate data (say, for estimating how many synagogues were needed in refugee camps) without putting individuals at risk.
and the propaganda around "the Jewish Holocaust" which began well before WW2, and that "it's humans dude, we gotta fix us, all of us", is somehow a "bad" thing?
And is all that, and plenty more, and nuance and subtlety, all bundled into "holocaust denier" a suitable way to engage in constructive conversation?
"Conspiracy theorists" ... that's "original" :/