Re: impersonating Juan, a quick test

Sorry, I wasn't looking at the list yesterday. My spoofed header attempt used my actual cock.li login at port 587 of mx1.cock.li... I tried sending it with a "MAIL FROM: punk..", but those didn't go through, so then I just used the same address I had authenticated with, and did an extremely rudimentary header spoof in the DATA section. This made it through, although it had my cock.li address as a "Return-Path" in the headers, and then I sort of got bored and moved on to something else.... Of course, I tried just blasting it through cock.li without any SMTP authentication first, but as I suspected it's not an open relay :). I had zero confidence that this would've worked but had to try. The whole point of doing the spoofed headers using cock.li's server was to make it look authentic... You can spoof the headers from almost anywhere that lets you send SMTP but I wanted cock.li servers to show up in the headers. I considered it a fail because of what I mentioned in the first paragraph, but I haven't looked at the previous impersonation emails closely enough to say for sure how they happened, but as I recall they were better than mine (they were routed through cock.li servers but I don't remember any give-away "return-path" header or anything else). I'll take another look at them when I have time to see what I may have missed. cheers John On July 15, 2019 12:59:08 AM UTC, Mirimir wrote:

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On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 16:13:26 -0700 Mirimir wrote:

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You are such an jerk.

Why would you speculate about someone "guessing" your password, or Vince "playing games", after John clearly said that he spoofed some

On 07/14/2019 05:04 PM, Punk wrote: header?

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because spoofing headers DOESNT actually WORK!! Doesn't "work" in

the sense of creating a message that looks authentic.

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if you look at the headers of message 075590, which I didn't write,

the headers look authentic :

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https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2019-July/075590.html

OK, I get it. Sorry to be such a jerk. I hadn't read the earlier posts about spoofed messages from your CockMail account. And I thought that you were referring to John's message that you replied to, not this other message, "Boomerhedge - Boomer Propaganda Cesspool".

But seriously, that one is even less well spoofed.

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vs the message I'm replying to now

| From: Punk

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John tried doing the same thing and failed because a random cock.li user can't spoof a header in a way that makes it look *authentic*. SO, if the header IS authentic or a 'perfect fake', then there are a few options

1) somebody has my password

2) or cock.li's admin himself sent the messages (both 1 and 2 as suggested by Shawn)

3) or I'm lying and no message was spoofed. So I first wrote a message saying that zerohedge is garbage and then I wrote a reply to my own message as if I were a different person, disgagreeing with myself. Because I'm that retarded.

needless to say I KNOW option 3 is false, but you're free to believe in such 'conspiracy theory'.

Unless I missed something, I doubt that your account has been compromised. Or that Vince is fucking with you.

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You can bullshit all you want, but it was a dumb thing to say, and it makes you look like an idiot. And it makes me wonder whether he actually got it right, because I don't recall you being as idiotic as this ;)

So what about YOU misreading what I said? You're clearly misunderstanding something. I'm even willing to admit it's because of my less than perfect english...But hopefully NOW you got it.

Yes, I got it. Sorry. Just crabby today, I guess.