On 9/28/15, Tom <tom@vondein.org> wrote:
in germany this is at least known since 2007:
CIA never lets a good opportunity go to waste - keep such aces up sleeves for future threat and or retaliation 'opportunity'.
http://m.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/a-1054926.html (german source, sorry) and the auto industry is being covered by the german government(*). The government does even lobby in the EU against stronger norms in vafour of german auto industry since years.
So, if you ask me, it is implausible that eh EPA found out about this only recently. IMHO they knew it all the time. Now there has been "that call" from D.C. ordering them to open the box. Why now? I don't know, but maybe looking east and south from germany may help...
*) this means, at least in germany they didn't cheat. The government did in effect.
Indeed it could be seen as retaliation - an enticing if impossible to prove proposition - Germany's leader finally suggests alternative approaches required to handle Syrian refugees 'and Assad' and the situation in Ukraine, and US firing back: 2014, Germany towing the US line: * Nov 11, 2014 - Merkel aide rules out working with Assad despite rise of Islamic State http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/11/us-syria-crisis-germany-assad-idUS... now the shift: * Sep 1, 2015 - EU migrant crisis: Germany's Angela Merkel suggests border controls may be re-introduced http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/eu-migrant-crisis-germanys-angela-merkel-suggests-b... * 04 Sep 2015 - Germany helps Russia bypass Ukraine via ‘Nord Stream 2’ http://www.euractiv.com/sections/energy/germany-helps-russia-bypass-ukraine-... (who needs the EU energy protectionist package when you can go direct to Russia) * Sep 12, 2015 - Germany's Merkel sees need to cooperate with Russia on Syria http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/12/us-mideast-crisis-syria-germany-id... * 24.09.2015 - Merkel says Assad must have role in Syria talks http://www.dw.com/en/merkel-says-assad-must-have-role-in-syria-talks/a-18736... and possible reprisal by US - 'VW scandal!' (7 years late) and new US nukes stationed in Germany (take THAT, Germans!): * Sep 18 - VW Is Said to Cheat on Diesel Emissions; U.S. to Order Big Recall http://tech.slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=story&sid=15/09/18/1745221 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/business/volkswagen-is-ordered-to-recall-n... * September 21, 2015 - U.S. Will Station New Nuclear Weapons in Germany Against Russia http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/09/u-s-will-station-new-nuclear-weapons-... “The Bundestag decided in 2009, expressing the will of most Germans, that the US should withdraw its nuclear weapons from Germany. But German Chancellor Angela Merkel did nothing.” And now she okays the U.S. to increase America’s German-based nuclear arsenal against Russia. Perhaps USG has some control dirt on Merkel? Perhaps the Bundestag is not independent, or perhaps we're not getting the full story? Zenaan