-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 07/30/2015 04:43 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
1) Program full FLOSS stack for circuit/chip dev: # some starts: apt-cache search circuit apt-cache search electron
2) Start with one of the FLOSS CPUs, eg SPARC2, and divide and conquer it's analysis audit.
That's been mentioned here serveral times. Then someone else chimes in with the injection of boobytrapped packages to ensure that designs are automagickally tampered with or boobytrapped compilers (nevermind that we have a workable way of detecting and mitigating the attack (try it, it works!)). Then someone else chimes in with "Well, we can't even trust the FPGAs or the gate synthesis software for the same reason." This is yet another iteration of the same loop on this mailing list. It would be killfile-able if some of the basic terms didn't change between iterations. I suppose what I'm bitching about (and I've probably just faceplanted by stepping into that particular pothole - it's my turn, I guess) is that there seems to be no part of the threat model where risk is acceptible. I mean, going all the way back to hand-wired electromechanical processors just to be able to bootstrap back to silicon and losing 20-30 years of technical advancement? Somewhere, we went way off course. There is a saying: "Perfect is the enemy of working." I think that's where we as a group have lost our way. The threats are known. The risks are known. Let's act. - -- The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415] [ZS] PGP: 0x807B17C1 / 7960 1CDC 85C9 0B63 8D9F DD89 3BD8 FF2B 807B 17C1 WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/ "Holy crap! What have I gotten myself into!?" --Adam Savage -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVu7WMAAoJED1np1pUQ8RkJN4QAIbZgO+Hjz6/hYqlRjS7vUu6 tv2/9S0/ZXQ6EyzUWwkToWfN/KCIQg+UdlcsxnQMe+jLYfDYB4greeSdUnXhUOMN lec0rnxDJ2taHUgd0OVnsJ90uHXs7NGkI1QM5vlNXwFjvSpcCz212rKdljymBsJx bIsfzF2YioqAaSXREBe/OZvFahRfiKa693FmeU3WLVuU6k5CUk7fpEGUEhiZllmU JmE7jAPovTtZ9kSoNA9WX9WX2TEdBocOh0JmekX8vak1tXURzZKktomaEbnMaaOz +lPlbpRdzUL4KKBMoXWNwcZDCjizYO3HGJkeOyglgxzG0KiEW13EVwTwpON04rFw Cmsywhh3/eeRCjVQhuGuGbOUHe7UZRqPunKB8kC1glNMAMueICiDQVlYQIBNZZ7s Mjax7NhElVBfRWrVWW0ZgQTlxRxLVtoq4/vmtQaleofynxn3CBo1f2+faZO+sI7Q U10ZW7jku1mHmCeo4EZgj8CkE336F7uJ/J8ZvhzXsrSsA6aD5vcC5JOYkYk5NiNN R1ULwRH1Dt3g910jG/2KjD8x9yl9ZMplYftrNH9IWWoXEnLI2XkHZWCK2Hg+exqS /J/F6NhEY53x+ZqGAI9CJ4vYAVFFY8MuLSnbmmM1hCBQmT776Yoiv7lKDEuKJJsU Av0wsd46vJLmXF0/RY7P =O/ho -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----