Link to chart, Are we having a rational discussion: http://www.jamespegram.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/discussion-flow-chart.... On 04/07/2015 04:59 PM, Cari Machet wrote:
i decided no to really read this after you stated i was blowing my own horn - you dont know me at all i didnt come to the table saying i worked at this or that place and i know blah blah i didnt even want to say i have worked at all the places mostly because it might come across as arrogant but i have worked in all the places i stated and i can actually prove that so ... and someone was point blank questioning wether i am even a journo so... i think you need to take the personal attack thing down a notch this argument isnt about me and thats another reason i didnt want to say where i have worked but frankly anyone that is bringing up what i bring up would have to know something ...maybe ya think?
here is a graph for you to analyse your debate functionality which i think is incredibly low
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net <mailto:zen@freedbms.net>> wrote:
On 4/8/15, Cari Machet <carimachet@gmail.com <mailto:carimachet@gmail.com>> wrote: > oh great another person that thinks they know everything because they > punched some letters into a search engine
Look (at least some of) the folks around here have a second brain cell, some even have third.
> i worked at indymedia in new york city democracy now and pbs > wnet in the > field in the middle east so... and other weird journo watchdoggie things on > immi in iceland and on documentaries but besides that i am an activist and > but also cover that in different places
You say you are a journalist, you say you are an activist, you say you worked in the middle east, you say all sorts of things.
To me (TM) you're blowing your trumpet excessively. Once is ok, but to keep blowing your own trumpet, over and over again - as in, repeatedly - you know, more than once, carries implications; the exact implications will vary by listener and are likely -not- what you want arising within your reader's' minds.
You also keep 'pushing' your journalistic 'cred' rather than spend that small effort to push the SHIFT key to capitalise your sentences and names - that's disrespectful or at least lazy. Some of us make the effort for you, yet you fail to return that courtesy. And a bloody small courtesy it is four a journalist.
> frankly i have no clue why you are making such a big deal > out of all of this
Ah ... who's making the big deal? Hmm...
Listen I don't hold anything against you, I don't know you and I've been assuming ever since I first saw your emails on this list that you are posting with a fake name. I do know it's hard to see oneself - in the hindsight of reading my own emails after the fact I have embarrassed myself too many times, so I empathise with your plight.
> - maybe ask yourself ... you take cheap base shots at people that > are boring and have no place in advanced thinking debate
Pottle, meet ket :/
Given your loud self proclamations I suggest raising -your- tone. I would appreciate that.
Secondly consider letting your work do the speaking for you. We have these little things called hyperlinks, which look somewhat like this: http://my.domain/some-intro-page.html - such a link in your email footer would allow those who would bother to verify about you for themselves without your dismal trumpet practice getting in the way. That's a win win, especially for you.
Thirdly show a little respect to the people you write about (in email) and press the SHIFT key at the same time as you type the first letter of each name you type.
Fourthly if your intention is to demonstrate consideration to your readers then also press that SHIFT key simultaneously to pressing the first letter of the first word of each sentence (these are usually the ones coming after a period).
Fifthly raise your own tone; those with that second or third brain cell I spoke of can see black kettles for what they are - screeching about that from the stove top is not becoming for a so called 'journalist'. Not in the slightest. Did I mention anything about dignity? Well it's about your own behaviour not what others say. Problem with said screeching is sometimes 'you' mistake a beautiful silver carafe temporarily placed on the stove next to you, for a nasty black kettle; others see the silver carafe and cover their ears from the "BLACK KETTLE! BLACK KETTLE!" screeching; you start looking distinctly pot like and rather black.
By the way that's not a good look - I can vouch for this from painful first hand experience :P
A single rule for self which may work for you (or not, I dunno) is 'assume good intent'. When someone challenges self, perhaps self needs a challenge. When someone calls self a black kettle perhaps a little polishing of self is needed, a rib extraction, that sort of thing. And if your assumption is wrong and bad intent is coming atcha, then at least you've taken that polishing your act opportunity and look a little shinier to onlookers.
THAT's what some call a win win situation :D
Good luck fellow human, Zenaan
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