Hello Prof. Faber, As always, I appreciate your useful list. Without diminishing whatsoever the probable reality of a determined threat, it is worthwhile, I think to note the following sequence, which suggests whilst applauding the efforts of the police in the UK, the attached political agenda is also worthy of tracking: August 9, 2006 Britain facing a new breed of fascist, warns Reid http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2305628.html The British Home Secretary makes a speech on Aug 9 saying '"Sometimes we may have to modify some of our own freedoms in the short term, in order to prevent their misuse and abuse by those who oppose our fundamental values and would destroy all of our freedoms in the long term." ... He argued that Britain's security apparatus was created during the Cold War in response to the threat from fascism, but that the threat was now from "fascist individuals".' August 10, 2006 Airport chaos after police foil plot to blow up aircraft http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2306721,00.html On Aug 10 (Bush is informed by Blair in the evening of Aug 9), the Home Secretary says 'a major terrorist plot to allegedly blow up aircraft in mid-flight has been thwarted. In a pre-recorded statement, broadcast early this morning, Mr. Reid said that police believed the alleged plot was "very significant indeed". He said: "Overnight the police, with the full knowledge of ministers, have carried out a major counter-terrorism operation to disrupt what we believe to be a major threat to the UK and international partners. ... At 2am this morning the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre raised the UK threat state to its highest level - critical. .. But as far as is possible we want people to go about their business as normal." This forms part of an ongoing political battle: August 1, 2006 New blow to Reid as he loses control order appeal http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,200-2294110.html "The Court of Appeal today delivered a further blow to the Government's controversial policy of placing terror suspects under house arrest using control orders. Three senior judges rejected a challenge by John Reid, the Home Secretary, against an earlier High Court ruling that the orders contravened the Human Rights Act. In a move which marks the latest clash between ministers and judges over civil rights, Mr. Reid responded furiously to the judgment and vowed to petition the House of Lords to get it overturned, claiming that control orders made up an "essential" part in the War on Terror. ... Dismissing the Home Secretary's appeal, the panel, headed by the Lord Chief Justice, Lord Phillips, said: "We agree that the facts of this case fall clearly on the wrong side of the dividing line. The orders amounted to a deprivation of liberty contrary to Article 5." Why the need to "modify some of our own freedoms"? Or am I getting paranoid? Peter Morgan peter@riversystems.com

-----Original Message----- From: David Farber [mailto:dave@farber.net] Sent: August 10, 2006 2:02 PM To: ip@v2.listbox.com Subject: [IP] more on news from the UK

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From: Twister <twister@stop1984.com> (Bettina Winsemann) Date: August 10, 2006 9:02:58 AM EDT To: dave@farber.net Subject: Re: [IP] news from the UK

Hi, Dave

regarding the planned attack. ...

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One feature, if you read the articles, that might be of interest to IP. In the UK, they've banned people from taking electronic equipment on planes: that means laptop computers, mobile phones, and iPods among other items. See for instance:

www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-US-Terror-Plot-Glance.html

I have no idea what the security basis is for this decision.

The plan was to bomb the planes via liquid explosives which is the reason to forbid taking liquid with you into the plane. Mother's milk has to be tested by the mother to be taken within the plane The security fears that any mobile etc. could countain a detonator or used as one.

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