Ashcroft's Plans to Shred the Constitution
While Bill Maher loses his advertisers for suggesting that lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away is more cowardly than personally flying an aircraft into a building, we now have a first look at the "features" present in the anti-Terrorism bill, to be submitted to Congress on Friday. According to AP, the bill permits prosecutors to use evidence collected by foreign governments, even if that evidence was collected in ways unconstitutional in the United States. It will also permit law enforcement to seize billing records of ISPs without a court order, so that they may be grepped through to identify anyone who uses the service with an assumed name. The definition of "terrorist" will be augmented to include any person who supports in any way any organization they know or should know is a terrorist organization. Criminalize the possession of chemicals that could be used in chemical or biological weapons in quantities the Feebs consider suspicious. Criminalize giving "expert advise" to "terrorists." Permit the seizing of the property of any person, organization, or country, that attacks the United States. Permit access to education records by law enforcement, without the permission of the student or their parents. Permit terrorist DNA fingerprinting, and remove the $2 million cap on rewards for fighting terrorism. The gauntlet has been thrown down. How long before the estates of "terrorists" Bill Maher and Tim May are seized at gunpoint for the Greater Good of the Reich? -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"
Quoting Eric Cordian (emc@artifact.psychedelic.net):
The gauntlet has been thrown down. How long before the estates of "terrorists" Bill Maher and Tim May are seized at gunpoint for the Greater Good of the Reich?
Doesn't that depend on how quickly they co-operate with the feds? Surely highly intelligent citizen-units will be given the opportunity to save their property from confiscation in exchange for their services towards furthering the war effort. Regards, Steve -- Several eye-witnesses report seeing a missile strike the WTC before it went down.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:31:37PM -0700, Eric Cordian wrote:
According to AP, the bill permits prosecutors to use evidence collected by foreign governments, even if that evidence was collected in ways unconstitutional in the United States.
This is correct. See the text posted at wartimeliberty.com
It will also permit law enforcement to seize billing records of ISPs without a court order, so that they may be grepped through to identify anyone who uses the service with an assumed name.
I didn't catch that based on a quick read. Got a section #? -Declan
Declan writes:
It will also permit law enforcement to seize billing records of ISPs without a court order, so that they may be grepped through to identify anyone who uses the service with an assumed name.
I didn't catch that based on a quick read. Got a section #?
I have no idea where this is in the bill. I go it from the following article which materialized on AP earlier today... Increased Police Powers Are Broad By JESSE J. HOLLAND Associated Press Writer September 19, 2001, 8:44 PM EDT ... The administration also wants to let the FBI and other police agencies seize billing information like credit card numbers from Internet companies without a court order, according to a Justice Department analysis of the anti-terrorism legislative package it plans to submit Friday. "In many cases, users register with Internet service providers using false names, making the form of payment critical to determining the user's true identity," said the analysis, which was provided in advance Wednesday to senators. ... -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"
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Declan McCullagh
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Eric Cordian
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Steve Thompson