On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Duncan Frissell wrote:

At 04:56 PM 7/20/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:

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Just as much as these protesters object to having their cultures and planet raped and pillaged for the God $ Fascist good (and not their own).

Presumably "their cultures" and "their planet" are the "property" they are defending according to your prior post. I thought they didn't really believe in property?

Yes, property they have an interest in. An interest that is not measurable in economic metrics. Who didn't believe in property? Which group didn't believe in property. As a journalist who is supposedly well versed in this area it's surprising that you would try to attempt to show the many groups involved as having a single agenda or theme, when you know that isn't so. Some don't believe in a world government. Some don't believe in trans-national economics becoming the primary force in government. Some object to a combining of the two. Some object to the crass commercialism that has ravaged Afria with AIDS. Some object to the belief that pledging a $1B to 'fight AIDS' isn't sufficient when what is needed and what is required (though they don't want to do it) is to 'end AIDS', without turning the people into chatels of the state in some eco-socialist wet dream. No, there are many views and you're trying to lump them all into one category is nothing more than evidence to the strength (really complete lack thereof) of your case.

In any case, culture is something that exists in the minds of people and in the choices those people make every day.

Provided they're given the opportunity to even make that choice. This is another of the bitches.

One can only claim to "own" a culture if one claims to own the minds and choices of others.

One does not claim to own a culture (demonstrating your lack thereof), one IS a culture. To have a culture destroyed, especially for nothing more than profit, is rape.

A bit totalitarian and impossible for commie thugs to do these days since even governments with nukes are having trouble controlling the minds and choices of others.

It's not just 'commie', again your single mindset reveals your shallow understanding. The lack of 'control' is exactly why they're so upset. Why they're so worried. It's exactly why they don't want it to get larger. It's why they don't want people to know what's going on. These are the same people, who when they want to search your home, who ask "what have you got to hide?" What have they got to hide?

As for the planet, a bit big to be owned at this point though people will be able to own them later when we're richer and have access to more of them. Though why one would want to own a gravity well is beyond me.

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