On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 10:07:47AM -0800, Console Cowboy wrote:

Has anyone though about setting this list to only accept mail from it's members?

It's been proposed many times, and each time there's a storm of protest that 1) anonymous remailers wouldn't be able to post (not true) and 2) spam is free speech (arguable when the recipients pay for its delivery). It won't happen any time soon. I filter out most of the spam by sending anything posted to the toad.com address to a seperate folder. The bulk of cypherpunks spam has historically been sent to the old toad address, although that seems to be changing. I also filter spam by running an experimental filter I wrote that recognizes spam text (www.lne.com/ericm/spammaster). Sometimes I forge unsubscribe messages to the spam lists that the cypherpunks list gets subscribed to... I encourage others to do the same. -- Eric Murray Consulting Security Architect SecureDesign LLC http://www.securedesignllc.com PGP keyid:E03F65E5

Jim Choate wrote:

I"m still waiting on somebody to tell me how to reliably tell if a individual piece of email is encrypted or not, without of course setting up a whole set of policies and rules (which is sooooo un-cypherpunk).

<sigh> didn't we have that a LONG time ago? the solution is easy, if you accept a few limitations. namely, you go for the top 99% only and accept only algorithms that are known to you. of course you'll be able to come up with some kind of encryption that looks like spam if you try, but that's not the point.

Aaargh. This "has anyone though [sic]" mail must be a troll. -Declan (though maybe it would be useful to have the toad.com addr bounce back "here's the current info" mail rather than injecting messages into the distributed majordomo network) On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 10:07:47AM -0800, Console Cowboy wrote:

Has anyone though about setting this list to only accept mail from it's members? That would seem to solve quite a few of these issues (issues meaning lots of spam, like 2-5 messages a day of spam from this address.)

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Cat got your tongue? On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Console Cowboy wrote: -- FINE, I take it back: UNfuck you! Who is John Galt? galt@inconnu.isu.edu, that's who!