What color are anthrax spores anyway?
Hialeah, Florida-AP -- Florida officials say five people have been hospitalized after opening envelopes containing a mysterious white powder. Officials with the Hialeah Fire-Rescue Department in suburban Miami say one person at an apartment was taken to the hospital today after opening a manila envelope. Yesterday, four people at a house 20 blocks away were exposed to an apparently identical powder mailed in a manila envelope. They contacted authorities today and were hospitalized. Three of them are being treated for low-grade fevers. The F-B-I and emergency officials have quarantined the home, taking the mail as well as the clothing the occupants were wearing at the time. Preliminary testing of the substance could be completed today. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
Just for the record, I just received a note stating this may in fact be a hoax... On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 measl@mfn.org wrote:
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 23:34:10 -0500 (CDT) From: measl@mfn.org Reply-To: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com To: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com Subject: CDR: What color are anthrax spores anyway?
Hialeah, Florida-AP -- Florida officials say five people have been hospitalized after opening envelopes containing a mysterious white powder. Officials with the Hialeah Fire-Rescue Department in suburban Miami say one person at an apartment was taken to the hospital today after opening a manila envelope. Yesterday, four people at a house 20 blocks away were exposed to an apparently identical powder mailed in a manila envelope. They contacted authorities today and were hospitalized. Three of them are being treated for low-grade fevers. The F-B-I and emergency officials have quarantined the home, taking the mail as well as the clothing the occupants were wearing at the time. Preliminary testing of the substance could be completed today.
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
Take it to heart. It sounds like an update on the Klingerman Virus. http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/culture/urbanlegends/library/weekly/aa05080... At 11:52 PM 10/7/01 -0500, measl@mfn.org wrote:
Just for the record, I just received a note stating this may in fact be a hoax...
On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 measl@mfn.org wrote:
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 23:34:10 -0500 (CDT) From: measl@mfn.org Reply-To: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com To: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com Subject: CDR: What color are anthrax spores anyway?
Hialeah, Florida-AP -- Florida officials say five people have been hospitalized after opening envelopes containing a mysterious white powder. Officials with the Hialeah Fire-Rescue Department in suburban Miami say one person at an apartment was taken to the hospital today after opening a manila envelope. Yesterday, four people at a house 20 blocks away were exposed to an apparently identical powder mailed in a manila envelope. They contacted authorities today and were hospitalized. Three of them are being treated for low-grade fevers. The F-B-I and emergency officials have quarantined the home, taking the mail as well as the clothing the occupants were wearing at the time. Preliminary testing of the substance could be completed today.
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org
If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
Hint: This isn't the style AP uses. The biggest problem would-be hoaxers have is crafting articles in the appropriate style -- very, very few can pull it off. -Declan On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 11:52:12PM -0500, measl@mfn.org wrote:
Just for the record, I just received a note stating this may in fact be a hoax...
On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 measl@mfn.org wrote:
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 23:34:10 -0500 (CDT) From: measl@mfn.org Reply-To: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com To: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com Subject: CDR: What color are anthrax spores anyway?
Hialeah, Florida-AP -- Florida officials say five people have been hospitalized after opening envelopes containing a mysterious white powder. Officials with the Hialeah Fire-Rescue Department in suburban Miami say one person at an apartment was taken to the hospital today after opening a manila envelope. Yesterday, four people at a house 20 blocks away were exposed to an apparently identical powder mailed in a manila envelope. They contacted authorities today and were hospitalized. Three of them are being treated for low-grade fevers. The F-B-I and emergency officials have quarantined the home, taking the mail as well as the clothing the occupants were wearing at the time. Preliminary testing of the substance could be completed today.
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org
If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Hint: This isn't the style AP uses.
I actually went to the ap.org site to see if I could verify before forwarding, but was unsuccessful: as near as I can tell, the general public doesn't get in, only their subscribers. As for failing to know their format: totally guilty as charged. That's why I was *trying* to give it at least a cursory authentication <sigh>.
The biggest problem would-be hoaxers have is crafting articles in the appropriate style -- very, very few can pull it off.
-Declan
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Sunday, October 7, 2001, at 10:43 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Hint: This isn't the style AP uses.
The biggest problem would-be hoaxers have is crafting articles in the appropriate style -- very, very few can pull it off.
Monday October 8 2:16 AM ET Ridge Warns on Internet Hoax Articles By Winston Blair, Associated Press Writer PHILADELPHIA, Pennyslvania (AP) - Homeland Defense Secretary Tom Ridge said Sunday that the U.S. faces a serious and expanding threat from fraudulent Internet articles, or hoaxes. ``These articles often sway the gullible,'' he told a press conference in Philadelphia. ``It cannot be permitted. The freedom of speech we enshrine in our Constitution is not the freedom to speak frivolously in times of war. There are no free speech advocates in foxholes.'' Ridge stressed that the U.S moves to limit false news articles will be done with input from civil liberties groups, saying the moves are ``against info-terrorists, info-terrorism, their sanctuaries and their supporters.''
On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 11:54:50PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
PHILADELPHIA, Pennyslvania (AP) - Homeland Defense Secretary Tom Ridge said Sunday that the U.S. faces a serious and expanding threat from fraudulent Internet articles, or hoaxes.
Almost. The most obvious sign that this is a hoax is your inclusion of the state in the dateline. For major cities, it's usually not included. -Declan
On Monday, October 8, 2001, at 05:44 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 11:54:50PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
PHILADELPHIA, Pennyslvania (AP) - Homeland Defense Secretary Tom Ridge said Sunday that the U.S. faces a serious and expanding threat from fraudulent Internet articles, or hoaxes.
Almost. The most obvious sign that this is a hoax is your inclusion of the state in the dateline. For major cities, it's usually not included.
-Declan
Oh? Except for the most common cities (Washington, New York, Los Angeles, etc.), my sampling shows they usually give the state. Sometimes abbreviated to 2-4 letters, sometimes spelled out completely. Here are some AP items I pullled: (By the way, the last item is NOT a hoax by me, and confirms what I posted from the Bloomberg site a few days ago.) --Tim May FAIRBANKS, Alaska (AP) - Crews on Saturday installed a clamp over a bullet hole in the trans-Alaska pipeline, finally stopping a leak that spewed 285,600 gallons of oil onto the wilderness over three days. KNOB NOSTER, Mo. (AP) - They heard the rumbles and their houses shook. As they sat in their homes next to Whiteman Air Force Base, residents knew the retaliations had begun. BOCA RATON, Fla. (AP) - A co-worker of the man who died last week from anthrax also has tested positive for the disease and the building where both worked was closed after the bacterium was detected there.
Right. That's why I said "major cities." Everyone knows where Philadelphia is; I have no idea where "Knob Noster" would be without a bit of a hint. -Declan On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 09:17:07AM -0700, Tim May wrote:
On Monday, October 8, 2001, at 05:44 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 11:54:50PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
PHILADELPHIA, Pennyslvania (AP) - Homeland Defense Secretary Tom Ridge said Sunday that the U.S. faces a serious and expanding threat from fraudulent Internet articles, or hoaxes.
Almost. The most obvious sign that this is a hoax is your inclusion of the state in the dateline. For major cities, it's usually not included.
-Declan
Oh? Except for the most common cities (Washington, New York, Los Angeles, etc.), my sampling shows they usually give the state. Sometimes abbreviated to 2-4 letters, sometimes spelled out completely. Here are some AP items I pullled:
(By the way, the last item is NOT a hoax by me, and confirms what I posted from the Bloomberg site a few days ago.)
--Tim May
FAIRBANKS, Alaska (AP) - Crews on Saturday installed a clamp over a bullet hole in the trans-Alaska pipeline, finally stopping a leak that spewed 285,600 gallons of oil onto the wilderness over three days.
KNOB NOSTER, Mo. (AP) - They heard the rumbles and their houses shook. As they sat in their homes next to Whiteman Air Force Base, residents knew the retaliations had begun.
BOCA RATON, Fla. (AP) - A co-worker of the man who died last week from anthrax also has tested positive for the disease and the building where both worked was closed after the bacterium was detected there.
Too short an incubation period for Anthrax. Marc de Piolenc measl@mfn.org wrote:
Hialeah, Florida-AP -- Florida officials say five people have been hospitalized after opening envelopes containing a mysterious white powder. Officials with the Hialeah Fire-Rescue Department in suburban Miami say one person at an apartment was taken to the hospital today after opening a manila envelope. Yesterday, four people at a house 20 blocks away were exposed to an apparently identical powder mailed in a manila envelope. They contacted authorities today and were hospitalized. Three of them are being treated for low-grade fevers.
on Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 08:07:19PM +0800, F. Marc de Piolenc (piolenc@mozcom.com) wrote:
Hialeah, Florida-AP -- Florida officials say five people have been hospitalized after opening envelopes containing a mysterious white powder. Officials with the Hialeah Fire-Rescue Department in suburban Miami say one person at an apartment was taken to the hospital today after opening a manila envelope. Yesterday, four people at a house 20 blocks away were exposed to an apparently identical powder mailed in a manila envelope. They contacted authorities today and were hospitalized. Three of them are being treated for low-grade fevers.
Too short an incubation period for Anthrax.
Note that a known issue with BioChem WOMD attacks is sympathetic
incidents -- people who report for observation, with or without
symptoms, who aren't themselves directly effected. One NPR interview
gave this as being eightfold the actual number of directly effected
victims. This has substantial implications for preparedness and medical
response requirements.
Peace.
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Karsten M. Self
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