Utah is Southern? I do not want directions from you. :-) And as an aside why is Southern=Stupid. Most of the truly dense people I have met in my life are self-righteous Yankees. Southerners, by and large, will say "Idda know" instead of spout foolishness. -----Original Message----- From: Major Variola (ret) [mailto:mv@cdc.gov] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:42 AM To: cypherpunks@lne.com Subject: Re: Destroying computers At 01:07 AM 6/19/03 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:

Methinks Mr Hatch is not a very bright man.

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If Orrin Hatch proposes such a thing, we can propose technologies which identify those from .gov or .mil or other Congress/Gov't. domains and send lethal viruses and suchlike back to them to destroy their machines if

A Southern senator. Need I say more? Usual suspect wrote: they

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illegally connect to our machines.

Trivial to do, and legal, if they are advised and consent by clicking through. M$'s auto bug- / RAMsnooping- reporting is legal since the lUsers agreed. One man's trojan is another's remote control / file sharing program, baby. Similarly an encryption program that won't decrypt without a license. I have often considered releasing binaries with a EULA that stipulates various actions taken if found to be running on machines whose IP address reverse-lookups to an evil, (specified) TLD. No different than a demo program that won't save results without a license; if the license is granted automatically for non-evil TLDs. Similarly with M$'s auto posting of RAM. Of course, that astronomy Professor Usher would be pretty bummed when his research was toasted by an RIAA killbot, but then the Prof employs a provocatory surname, no? "Collateral damage" -hey, he could change his name, after all. Maybe to David Nelson :-) ---- If programmers are liable for security flaws in code, are legislators liable for unconstitutional laws they pass?