At 08:46 AM 3/29/01 -0800, Ray Dillinger <bear@sonic.net>wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 keyser-soze@hushmail.com wrote:
I think Judge Kozinski's ruling can also be easily read in support of free speech by operator and participants in anonymous betting pools with political interests.
I think you are wrong. The neuremberg files website didn't *create* a motive for killing. Assassination Politics would. That is a key difference.
You're right AP might not be protected. But suppose the activity is different. Suppose its publically stated purpose is some uncontroversial legit activity, such as psychic prediction contests. Shouldn't the same sorts of protections should apply as in the ruling? The fact that terrorists unknown to the psychics might use the contests for illegal purpose (maybe specifically prohibited by the contest organizers) should cover the majority participants. ks Free, encrypted, secure Web-based email at www.hushmail.com
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 keyser-soze@hushmail.com wrote:
You're right AP might not be protected. But suppose the activity is different. Suppose its publically stated purpose is some uncontroversial legit activity, such as psychic prediction contests. Shouldn't the same sorts of protections should apply as in the ruling? The fact that terrorists unknown to the psychics might use the contests for illegal purpose (maybe specifically prohibited by the contest organizers) should cover the majority participants.
Why wouldn't the 'betting' part simply be another aspect of 'speech'? It demonstrates POV only, neither the lottery operator or the party placing the bet are acting alone or together to initiate harm to any individual. There is also no clear mechanism to guarantee the winner is the same party as the 'executer' of the act. So the lottery operation itself can't as a result of its operation be shown to contribute to the executer. So why isn't it 'speech'? ____________________________________________________________________ If the law is based on precedence, why is the Constitution not the final precedence since it's the primary authority? The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
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