Schoolyard arguments
I read it. Yes but in the deconstruction/analysis, you STILL don't support your position WRT the objections raised, you switch over to "maybe it shouldn't be done so fast." But then you say the bill "will have to go to conference committee and then, probably, both chambers of Congress for another vote.." So it's not being passed *into law* at midnite by voice vote, it will be subject to investigation and review, Leahy is out there doing a good job, and finally - does your Wired readership know that you think so little of them that they can't understand some of what this debate is about? Killfile away, and I shall do same. ----- Original Message -----
On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 10:37:45PM -0700, citizenQ wrote:
I raised few policy objections. Instead I laid out what the bill would do. It sounds like you're what Tim would call a simp-wimp apologist for using Carnivore without court orders who is actively trying to sabotage privacy.
So it's not being passed *into law* at midnite by voice vote,
Never said it was.
it will be subject to investigation and review,
Nope. -Declan
On Monday, September 17, 2001, at 06:58 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Yep, "citizenQ" is one of the simp-wimps.He hides behind his Hushmail and Ziplip accounts, possibly using remailers fed into them, but then calls for regulating crypto and privacy. Not all those calling for key escrow and the other accouterments of repression are simp-wimps: some are hopeful sellers of key escrow schemes. "Chefron," our Dutch fascist, is one of these hopeful sellers of key escrow systems. The guy who sent out letters to Dorothy Denning, Baker, and others is another. But the arms dealers of repression need the simp-wimp fellow travellers to give them moral cover. --Tim May
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