Weapons Adviser Named as Possible Source for BBC Story Disappears; Man's Body Found LONDON (AP) - Police searching for a missing Ministry of Defense adviser, who was named by the government as the possible source for a disputed news report on Iraqi arms, said Friday they have found a man's body near his home. http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGABVMP3AID.html Maybe he's just hanging out with Ritter in upstate NY...
On Friday, July 18, 2003, at 04:32 AM, Major Variola (ret.) wrote:
'Unsubtle" is often what the spooks prefer: like the Mob, they are just as interested in sending a message as in silencing a witness. In this case, the message going out is "don't speak against the Official Version." Blair faces much more serious troubles than he would be in for ordering a hostile witness whacked. And, charitably, he may not even have ordered the hit. The intelligence agencies in Britain and the U.S. look to be hip-deep in forgeries of documents, concoction of evidence, and subornation of perjury. They may be killing witnesses just to protect their own asses. CIA Director Tenet is now looking to be they guy who has been told to fall on his sword. If he gets a cushy job with the Carlyle Group, expect him to remain silent. If he is sent into exile in Ohio or Indiana, he may write a book...if he lives. But, hey, George Bush is happy about the daily deaths of U.S. soldiers. As he said recently "Bring it on!" "We gonna open a can of Texas whoop-ass on them bad boys." Seriously, this clusterfuck is unfolding nicely. U.S. occupation troops are spread so thin in Kosovo, Afghanistan, and Iraq that there are now plans being developed to activate National Guard units to relieve them (115 F in full body armor is not pleasant). And the number of countries under occupation may soon increase: Liberia and other African hell-holes are targets. A half-trillion dollar deficit this year, added to the 5 or 6 trillion dollar total deficit (*). (* the official deficit, not counting the total lack of reserves/money for Socialist Insecurity, bond indebtedness, pension guarantees, loan guarantees, and other unfunded liabilities; some estimates place the real deficit at about $30 trillion, i.e., $30 thousand billion. With about 100 million taxpayers in the U.S., each owes $300,000. Needless to say, this owed amount, on average, is substantially more than their complete assets, on average. Even with the "official" indebtedness, the amount owed (if one accepts a national debt as a personal indebtedness) is upwards of $60,000. I use the larger amount because the U.S. government actually _has_ incurred that debt, officially reported or not.) And yet we are occupying countries which have nothing to do with our national interests. Kosovo...not our problem. Afghanistant...not our problem. Iraq. And soon, Liberia and maybe Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone, and Nigeria. And then there's the Perpetual Occupation of Korea. Meanwhile, scientists who might have spoken out on the forgeries and hype about the Iraq war are getting the message. Just as microbiologists did a few years ago when half a dozen microbiologists vanished. Just as other weapons experts did after Gerald Bull was executed. --Tim May "They played all kinds of games, kept the House in session all night, and it was a very complicated bill. Maybe a handful of staffers actually read it, but the bill definitely was not available to members before the vote." --Rep. Ron Paul, TX, on how few Congresscritters saw the USA-PATRIOT Bill before voting overwhelmingly to impose a police state
Tim May wrote: " U.S. occupation troops are spread so thin in Kosovo,.....Kosovo...not our problem" Having spent the better part of last year working in Kosovo, I wouldn't exactly call the forces there thin. NATO forces (non-US) are a majority of the peacekeeping occupiers and more and more of the mission is getting turned over to the EU (allowing for slow US withdrawal). With Serbia, Croatia, and Bosnia eagerly sucking the EU and US cocks to get into the EU and NATO, the US in the Balkans is if anything over strength. Of course hard line nationalists could take advantage of the overextended US forces, but honestly not likely to happen. Recent history (after the Cold War) seems to suggest that whole "Enemy of my enemy is my friend" concept doesn't work when the US is that enemy. Time and time again the enemies of the US (or folk who are not our enemies but also know the US would prevent them from doing sovereign things such as invading Taiwan) never seem to coordinate among themselves to take advantage of the situation. World wide terrorist cells seem to be pretty good at it but they also direct their energies at multiple targets, not just the USA (e.g. the IRA/PLA/FARC all cross train with each other and use each others specialists from time to time but all have 3 concentrate on different local enemies). Hostile foreign governments though just can't seem to band together. What Bush didn't realize at the time (and now the US Media is whining about) is that countries that didn't support him during the war would also not support him after the war. His hostile foreign diplomacy before the Iraq puppet state (pissing off two of the three largest Non-US peacekeeping forces (France / Germany)) is forcing the US to provide nearly all of the Iraq occupation force instead of handing it off to our *allies* as we have in the past. The standard US occupation plan for the last 12 years has been Invade->Conquer->Hand off ~70% of peacekeeping to other countries. This just isn't going to work this time and Bush in his arrogance can't understand why. Even Kosovo (NATO action, UN did NOT approve) got UN support immediately following the end of hostilities. Bush doesn't even seem to be trying to garner support for a postfacto UN resolution on Iraq giving in the air of legitimacy. -Peter ** STD CYA DISCL: This message in no way represents the views of Sprint or the US Army. It is solely the personal opinion of the sender **
On Friday, July 18, 2003, at 11:29 AM, Thoenen, Peter CIV Sprint wrote:
"the US in the Balkans is if anything over strength" does NOT contradict the "spread too thin" point, which is about the number of troops the U.S. has available to deply, the need for replacements, etc. The fact that U.S. soldiers in all of these places who were expecting to be relieved have instead been told they will stay at least several more months, perhaps another year, is the point. As for the general Yugoslavia situation, we supported the wrong sides in the Balkans. Not that supporting _any_ side in that European war was any of our business. --Tim May "To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists." --John Ashcroft, U.S. Attorney General
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