CDR: Fwd: Re: First Cypherpunks Physical Meeting Europe
Cypherpunks, I sent this out this morning. I left the huge "To:" list intact, even though many/most are censorioius, closed lists. I knew I would get a bunch of bounces, saying I was not authorized to post to their elite list. What I didn't check was whether the _real_ list, Cypherpunks, was on the distribution list. It wasn't. The fuckheads out there who blather about being "coderpunks" and "cryptorights" warriors are not even posting to Cypherpunks. And yet they claim, falsely, to organizing the "first cypherpunks physical meeting in Europe." I guess what Churchill said is right: "The Hun is either at your throat or at your feet."
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 15:12:00 -0700 To: cypherpunks-europe@koeln.ccc.de, news@koeln.ccc.de, intern@lists.ccc.de, krypto@thur.de, debate@fitug.de, eucrypto@fitug.de, cypherpunks@koeln.ccc.de, coderpunks@toad.com, cryptography@c2.net, ukcrypto@maillist.ox.ac.uk, meetingpunks@cryptorights.org, cypherpunks-europe-anounce@koeln.ccc.de From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net> Subject: Re: First Cypherpunks Physical Meeting Europe Cc: Bcc: X-Attachments:
At 11:39 AM +0200 9/24/00, cypherpunks-europe@koeln.ccc.de wrote:
On Saturday the 30th of September at 16:00 h there will be held the first cypherpunks physical meeting in Europe.
In the interest of accuracy, this is certainly NOT the "first Cypherpunks physical meeting in Europe."
For example,
" 4th Cypherpunks meeting, London -------------------------------
Will be held Saturday, 20 February 1993, at 1400 in the office of:
FOREST 4th Floor 2 Grosvenor Gardens London SW1W 0DH 071-823-6550 "
Or there are the various meetings held in or near Amsterdam:
When: Saturday, August 9, 1997 at 1:00 PM PDT. [22:00 local]
Where: The Workshop tent, HIP'97 Campground, Almere, The Netherlands.
And there are the ones held at the homes or hotels of American Cypherpunks living/working in places in Europe. I recall several mentions of these.
--Tim May
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On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 06:37:43PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
What I didn't check was whether the _real_ list, Cypherpunks, was on the distribution list. It wasn't.
It was sent to cypherpunks@koeln.ccc.de, and it did arrive in my cypherpunks mail folder. It's certainly not the first cypherpunks meeting in Europe, but it sounds interesting anyway. Too bad they're organizing it now that I don't live in Europe any more...
I guess what Churchill said is right: "The Hun is either at your throat or at your feet." Sweet!
Ulf Möller wrote:
What I didn't check was whether the _real_ list, Cypherpunks, was on the distribution list. It wasn't.
there've been several postings to the cypherpunks list about this, mostly by me.
It's certainly not the first cypherpunks meeting in Europe, but it sounds interesting anyway.
I was not aware of any prior meetings. anyone got details?
Tim May wrote:
What I didn't check was whether the _real_ list, Cypherpunks, was on the distribution list. It wasn't.
The fuckheads out there who blather about being "coderpunks" and "cryptorights" warriors are not even posting to Cypherpunks.
tim, don't make a fool of yourself. there's been LOTS of announcements of this meeting to the cypherpunks list, long before the first one was posted to any other list. I should know, I made those early postings.
participants (4)
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Tiarnan O Corrain
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Tim May
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Tom Vogt
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Ulf Möller