On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=110994

You know I've heard of alot about this today, mostly gibberish which was at least cleared up by the above link. Thanks. I find myself in an interesting position WRT John Walker. I admire him for having the strength of his convictions, and volunteering to fight for the side he believes is right, in the finest American tradition. But at the same time, I gotta tell you, I agree that he is a prisoner of war. Declared or not, let's face it, he was captured on an active field of battle - he's *not* a civilian, he's a combatant, and subject to the whims of the military. This has got to be one of the only times I can ever remember thinking that our military (much less Shrub) was actually *right* about something. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote:

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 measl@mfn.org wrote:

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not, let's face it, he was captured on an active field of battle - he's *not* a civilian, he's a combatant, and subject to the whims of the military.

Tell that to the Jews...

The _Jews_??? What the hell does this have to do with the fucking Jews? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------