http://www.madcowculture.com/madcow-00073.html Not surprisingly, the mad cow scare has gone underground and spawned a fan club that professes to live on the edge. Club members usually wear black, go to all-night clubs in Greenwich Village, and demonstrate courage by doing a line of cocaine. The new fad is a line of spine that involves inhaling through the nostrils a line of pulverized, powdered spine ostensibly from a really mad-cow cow. So pervasive is this practice that New York health officials have launched a television campaign called "This Is Your Brain On Cow," showing hapless young men and women braying at the moon. In a less dramatic manner some restaurants are simply adding a note of intrigue to expensive, bland menus. For example in Japan blowfish is considered a delicacy. However, it must be cooked properly or the consumer could die a very painful death. A similar practice is currently the rage in England where enterprising, risk-taking upper-class families actually seek out suspect meat for the Sunday roast claiming their pedigree will protect them.
Aha, yes. Being a vegan, I don't need to worry about such things. I demonstrate my courage by snorting a line of caffeine, followed by some guacamole. If I'm feeling up to pushing the edge, I may use non-organically grown avocados. BTW, the "This Is Your Brain on Cow" ads, which I saw while in NYC recently, are done by McDonalds' advertising agency. Evidently, the real fear (but maybe this is just conspiracy theory) is that mad cow will become so popular that McDonalds will suffer lost revenues. This is because there are strict US FDA regulations concerning the use of infected beef in restaraunts, but they have little to say about what individuals in private homes eat. -- Greg PS: I hear that the Japan story is a hoax, as infected beef is almost impossible to get there. People pay money for the thrill, but are really just getting marinated chicken. On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 01:27:37PM -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
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Not surprisingly, the mad cow scare has gone underground and spawned a fan club that professes to live on the edge. Club members usually wear black, go to all-night clubs in Greenwich Village, and demonstrate courage by doing a line of cocaine. The new fad is a line of spine that involves inhaling through the nostrils a line of pulverized, powdered spine ostensibly from a really mad-cow cow. So pervasive is this practice that New York health officials have launched a television campaign called "This Is Your Brain On Cow," showing hapless young men and women braying at the moon.
In a less dramatic manner some restaurants are simply adding a note of intrigue to expensive, bland menus. For example in Japan blowfish is considered a delicacy. However, it must be cooked properly or the consumer could die a very painful death.
A similar practice is currently the rage in England where enterprising, risk-taking upper-class families actually seek out suspect meat for the Sunday roast claiming their pedigree will protect them.
At 02:09 PM 06/10/2001 -0400, Greg Newby wrote:
Aha, yes. Being a vegan, I don't need to worry about such things. I demonstrate my courage by snorting a line of caffeine, followed by some guacamole.
An acquaintance of mine and his druggie friends decided that since many drugs have different effects depending on whether they're consumed in original plant form, refined powder, or smoked, they'd try smoking some caffeine pills. Crunched up their No-Doz, put it in their pipe and smoked it. ... Do not try this. ... Really. ... Everything caffeine does to you, the jitters, the headaches, etc., all at once in a big unpleasant rush... ... Stick to the brewed stuff.
At 02:09 PM 6/10/01 -0400, Greg Newby wrote:
This is because there are strict US FDA regulations concerning the use of infected beef in restaraunts, but they have little to say about what individuals in private homes eat.
Indeed there's been a few cases of something like BSE in Americans who've eaten elk and / or deer. But since the infected aren't fed back into the population, there's no way for it to spread. (E.g., if it arises spontaneously now and then.) Grass-eaters are not carnivores, much less cannibals, in the wild. By definition.
At 03:59 PM 6/10/01, David Honig wrote:
At 02:09 PM 6/10/01 -0400, Greg Newby wrote:
This is because there are strict US FDA regulations concerning the use of infected beef in restaraunts, but they have little to say about what individuals in private homes eat.
Indeed there's been a few cases of something like BSE in Americans who've eaten elk and / or deer. But since the infected aren't fed back into the population, there's no way for it to spread. (E.g., if it arises spontaneously now and then.)
I'm on the Pro-Med list and if there were any positive link between eating BSE-infected deer or elk, they'd be talking about it there. They aren't. Currently, there is only a recommendation that hunters not eat brains or spinal cords. What is it you know or think you know, that they do not? Reese
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 05:14:38PM -1000, Reese wrote:
At 03:59 PM 6/10/01, David Honig wrote:
At 02:09 PM 6/10/01 -0400, Greg Newby wrote:
This is because there are strict US FDA regulations concerning the use of infected beef in restaraunts, but they have little to say about what individuals in private homes eat.
Um, I do know how to spell "restaurants", just not how to tpye.
Indeed there's been a few cases of something like BSE in Americans who've eaten elk and / or deer. But since the infected aren't fed back into the population, there's no way for it to spread. (E.g., if it arises spontaneously now and then.)
I'm on the Pro-Med list and if there were any positive link between eating BSE-infected deer or elk, they'd be talking about it there. They aren't. Currently, there is only a recommendation that hunters not eat brains or spinal cords.
What is it you know or think you know, that they do not?
I presume Reese knows a joke (mine) when he sees one, and is just looking for info about deer & elk. This is a story I've heard about in several forums, including a radio show (maybe Pacifica News, I'm not sure). Go to www.google.com and query "bse elk deer" and you'll get several hits covering this topic. Whether it constitutes a "positive link" is for you to decide. I think Project Censored (www.projectcensored.org) did a story about this, too. The bottom line in several of these stories is that BSE *is* in the wild in the U.S., contrary to what Big Money (in this case, beef producers, McDonalds, etc.) would have us believe. Whether BSE is in US cows or elsewhere in the non-hunter human food chain is something I haven't heard about, but it's fair to guess that this is the type of information that would be supressed by the powers that be. All the more good reason to go vegan... http://www.reed.edu/~zeke/vegan/faq/vegan-l.FAQ.html -- Greg
At 05:14 PM 6/10/01 -1000, Reese wrote:
At 03:59 PM 6/10/01, David Honig wrote:
At 02:09 PM 6/10/01 -0400, Greg Newby wrote:
This is because there are strict US FDA regulations concerning the use of infected beef in restaraunts, but they have little to say about what individuals in private homes eat.
Indeed there's been a few cases of something like BSE in Americans who've eaten elk and / or deer. But since the infected aren't fed back into the population, there's no way for it to spread. (E.g., if it arises spontaneously now and then.)
I'm on the Pro-Med list and if there were any positive link between eating BSE-infected deer or elk, they'd be talking about it there. They aren't. Currently, there is only a recommendation that hunters not eat brains or spinal cords.
What is it you know or think you know, that they do not?
I know how to read, and I read _Science_. A sidebar called "American's own prion disease" describing Chronic Wasting Disease belonging to the transmissable spongiform encephalopathies (like Creutzfeld-Jakob and BSE). Vol 292 1 June 01 p 1641 Part of a larger article, "Is the US doing enough to prevent mad cow disease" p 1639-1641
At 05:01 AM 6/12/01, David Honig wrote:
At 05:14 PM 6/10/01 -1000, Reese wrote:
What is it you know or think you know, that they do not?
I know how to read, and I read _Science_. A sidebar called "American's own prion disease" describing Chronic Wasting Disease belonging to the transmissable spongiform encephalopathies (like Creutzfeld-Jakob and BSE). Vol 292 1 June 01 p 1641
Part of a larger article, "Is the US doing enough to prevent mad cow disease" p 1639-1641
That's encouraging, though it doesn't say _that_ much about the sidebar you read. Ever hear of a species barrier? It's a big step, from deer and elk, to humans. Here is the most recent Pro-Med update on CWD:
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