CNN.com - U.S. vetoes Mideast peace move - December 15, 2001

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
"It was the second time in less than a year that the United States had used its veto power to effectively kill a resolution that would create a monitoring mechanism for the protection of Palestinian civilians." And Joe FortyOunce doesn't understand why the world wants us dead... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------

On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 09:29:47AM -0600, measl@mfn.org wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
"It was the second time in less than a year that the United States had used its veto power to effectively kill a resolution that would create a monitoring mechanism for the protection of Palestinian civilians."
And Joe FortyOunce doesn't understand why the world wants us dead...
A particularly powerful article by Robert Fisk on his beating in Afghanistan. http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=109257

-- On 15 Dec 2001, at 12:47, Mark Henderson wrote:
On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 09:29:47AM -0600, measl@mfn.org wrote: A particularly powerful article by Robert Fisk on his beating in Afghanistan.
It is obvious they did not beat him enough. Let us hope they do it again, and the next time do a proper job of it. For example he still has his eyes. If they took out his eyes, he could see better than he does now. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG 2CyZSl4GZt/1Pyb603/KUlUuGVs0Y5ib4QnvlVLU 4/EDdIUc2oSXOCfQHuBY9OlVxYY2rhig4Nz4EJZN6

-- On 15 Dec 2001, at 12:47, Mark Henderson wrote:
A particularly powerful article by Robert Fisk on his beating in Afghanistan.
Someone who is too blind to recognize evil when it heaves a rock at his head needs some more rocks in the face to improve his vision. Those pashtun were not enraged because Israel dispossesses and mistreats palestinians in a far away country. They are enraged because they cannot dispossess and murder their neighbors. Like any sensible person far away from either Palestine or New York, they have little concern for the crimes of either Bin Laden or Sharon. However a short while ago, the Taliban was slaughtering various minority groups, throwing their bodies into wells to poison the ground water, bulldozing their houses and irrigation ditches, cutting down their mulberry trees and bulldozing their vines. Now they cannot do that any more. I hope Fisk goes back there for some more beatings. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG rDzhp9vaztxu9LGuvurmu0k3hJGMEwZ/BQIA3uac 42/nbpsiaeGccDCbwrQHrHwPPE/D5RZZri3JQ2E7q

On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 04:40:33PM -0800, jamesd@echeque.com wrote:
Someone who is too blind to recognize evil when it heaves a rock at his head needs some more rocks in the face to improve his vision. ... However a short while ago, the Taliban was slaughtering various minority groups, throwing their bodies into wells to poison the ground water, bulldozing their houses and irrigation ditches, cutting down their mulberry trees and bulldozing their vines. Now they cannot do that any more. I hope Fisk goes back there for some more beatings.
How touchingly naive. But, don't despair, now Afghanistan is ruled by a different set of thugs. They'll bulldoze different houses, and torture and kill different people.

-- James A. Donald:
Someone who is too blind to recognize evil when it heaves a rock at his head needs some more rocks in the face to improve his vision. [...] a short while ago, the Taliban was slaughtering various minority groups, throwing their bodies into wells to poison the ground water, bulldozing their houses and irrigation ditches, cutting down their mulberry trees and bulldozing their vines. Now they cannot do that any more. I hope Fisk goes back there for some more beatings.
On 17 Dec 2001, at 8:30, Mark Henderson wrote:
How touchingly naive.
But, don't despair, now Afghanistan is ruled by a different set of thugs. They'll bulldoze different houses, and torture and kill different people.
Perhaps, but they did not slaughter minority groups before, and they are not doing it right now. More importantly, they did not slaughter several thousand westerners before, and they are not killing random western journalists right now. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG YB3S+eH0vvZ6wzEgSsqLYrnLiqeRGaQSl8sYmVIf 4M39oEKzqjnvvqBLAoHclxU0SZh4WlrS3VTtHY2G3
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