At 10:06 2001-01-07 -0800, montag montag wrote:

Please post the actual experiences about obtaining a pre-paid cell phone

GSM/Europe 1) Buy a cell phone and pay cash 2) Buy a GSM cash-card and pay cash 3) Don´t send in the registration form to get that extra half hour! :-) To stall traffic analysis - buy many GSM cash-cards and change frequently - they are only around USD 10 (not counting the prepaid calling time). I don't believe the cell phone is sending it's serial number (but who - except for deep insiders and possibly Lucky Green - knows for sure?). //Mob

RE: actual cell phone buying experiences in Europe... In Greece you can purchase a GSM cell phone with smart card reader for cash (sometimes free if you purchase a smart card along with the phone)...no address, phone number, etc. required to receive the phone. Smart cards with pre-set values (usually $5, $10 and $25 worth in Greek drachmas) are purchased in cash via the thousands of corner kiosks or at electronics stores, etc. Again, no name, phone number, address, etc. required to purchase smart cards. The Greek GSM cell phones are useable across all of Europe, including the UK and Eastern Europe, Russia, etc. Plus the phones can be modified to interact with Voicestream's US GSM-type service (I've been told, not experienced first hand). Phillip Zakas -----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM]On Behalf Of montag montag Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 1:07 PM To: cypherpunks@toad.com Subject: cell phone anonymity Please post the actual experiences about obtaining a pre-paid cell phone (aka "mobile" in the less developed world) without revealing any (correct) identifying info, such as address, telephone no, name, etc. I know that it can be done in Canada. Unsure about US, UK and the rest of europe. regards, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/

Trivial in UK - walk into shop, pick one off shelves, walk to counter, pay money. They sell them in supermarkets & video rental shops now. Last year's most common Christmas present. My Mum and my daughter both got one. When you open the packet you can start talking within minutes. The battery even had charge on it. There was bumf asking you to "register" for which you got 5 pounds "free call time" but nothing to stop you making calls without registering. Ken montag montag wrote:

Please post the actual experiences about obtaining a pre-paid cell phone (aka "mobile" in the less developed world) without revealing any (correct) identifying info, such as address, telephone no, name, etc.

I know that it can be done in Canada. Unsure about US, UK and the rest of europe.

regards,

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