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From cypherpunks-request@toad.com Fri Mar 5 13:38:47 1993 Date: Fri, 5 Mar 93 16:26:11 -0500 From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@Athena.MIT.EDU> Message-Id: <9303052126.AA02211@SOS> To: Eric Hughes <hughes@soda.berkeley.edu> Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com In-Reply-To: Eric Hughes's message of Fri, 5 Mar 93 12:41:24 -0800, <9303052041.AA05452@soda.berkeley.edu> Address: 1 Amherst St., Cambridge, MA 02139 Phone: (617) 253-8091

Date: Fri, 5 Mar 93 12:41:24 -0800 From: Eric Hughes <hughes@soda.berkeley.edu>

Existing controls on the signal-to-noise ratio?

Yet this upper bound is ineffectual. Let us take the widely used companies and individuals that run them are.

Sure you can; you can protect regional and national networks such as MUCH deleted If you cause someone damage by your speech, and you maliciously did so knowing that your speech was false, the person you harmed should be able to recover damages from you, whether it is done over the phone or done over a TCP/IP network.

- Ted

Fortunately... Libel is a totally ineffectual law for attempting to impose the kinds of censorship that Ted seems to be espousing. Libel and slander laws are OFTEN used by the powers that be (governmental, corporate etc) to silence the oppostion in matters of human rights, ecology etc... just because a charge of libel or slander has been made doesnt mean that the charges are just or proper... often it is merely an attempt to silence the opposition... The world of cyberspace crossing without form international boundaries for now is a shield against censorship due to the complex legalities involved... remailers in seperate countries careful chosen offer complete protection against Ted and his loyal opposition. (your cabal ted... :) BTW: for me... control=censorship,interdiction etc... cheers kelly --