Re: Defeatist Compromising Commentary From Reason Magazine
On Wednesday, September 26, 2001, at 06:15 PM, Nilsphone@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 2001-09-26 17:21 Pacific Daylight Time, freematt@coil.com writes:
"Between Cato arguing for victim disarmament and Reason arguing that "right to liberty is preceded by the right to life," I say we just kill them all and let Rand sort them out." If you find Ms. Young's comments against encryption disturbing please write to Nick Gillespie <gillespie@reason.com> Editor-in-Chief of Reason Magazine and David Nott <davidn@reason.org> President, Reason Foundation.]
I think Reason got it wrong. Crypto technology might simplify a terrorist's life a little, that is all. If there are no secure channels, terrorists can meet in person. The "GO" order can be done in the clear, "lets go" needs no encryption. Alternatively, low volume comm between people who know each other, and can meet beforehand, can easily be done using one time pad, which are drop dead easy to use, foolproof (as long as you dont lose or re-use them) etc, but not suitable for mass communication. I can write a one-time-pad program in minutes that does it all for you. You need a source for the pads, GM-tubes are best, rooms full of lava lamps and a digital camera have been used. Not very hard, can be set up at a central location, once, and then the pads distributed by hand. (This latter is a must and the catch in mass communications.)
Nils Andersson (long time Reason subscriber, from the beginning in the 70-s)
They fucking DID meet in person! There is not one iota, not one shred, of evidence that Atta and and his 20 or so co-conspirators used "crypto" in any form! (Including image file steganography, the form I invented in 1989-90 and which Kevin Kelly profiled in his book "Out of Control," based on interviews in 1992. I mention this because several journalists have been writing b.s stories aoubt Osama using "steganography, files hidden in images.' B.S.) And even had Atta and Company used crypto, which there is no evidence whatsoever of, this would be no more justification for "key escrow" or "backdoors" than the use of curtains by Al Capone to hide his activities was grounds for "transparency escrow" modes in curtains or for banning sealed envelopes. Most crime takes place out of sight of law enforcement. So? Atta and his co-conspirators met in apartments, motel rooms, and sent overnight letters. Unless the bozos at Reason are arguing for opening of all mail, for microphones in motel rooms, for "1984" levels of apartment surveillance, there is nothing that could have been done to stop the planning. This is all just very basic stuff, written about by some of us in the mid-80s. That so many journalists are just now "discovering" the crypto issue is symptomatic of our times. That bimbo at "Reason" is why "Reason" is just another enemy of liberty. --Tim May (P.S. I used to read "Reason" back when it was published out of my college town, Santa Barbara. Circa 1971-2 or so, maybe '73. A friend of mine knew Rob Poole pretty well. And I voted for John Hospers in '72. And my roommate at UCSB later worked for "Reason." And so on. But it got so repetitive and boring that I stopped reading it around 1980. They have missed out on the important trends.)
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 07:32:57PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
based on interviews in 1992. I mention this because several journalists have been writing b.s stories aoubt Osama using "steganography, files hidden in images.' B.S.)
"Several?" A Lexis search on this phrase turns up 149 items: ("bin laden" or "bin ladin") and ("encryption" or "steganography") and date aft 9/10/2001 And that's not counting most web-based news services, such as CNET or Salon. -Declan
At 11:13 PM 09/26/2001 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 07:32:57PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
based on interviews in 1992. I mention this because several journalists have been writing b.s stories aoubt Osama using "steganography, files hidden in images.' B.S.)
"Several?" A Lexis search on this phrase turns up 149 items: ("bin laden" or "bin ladin") and ("encryption" or "steganography") and date aft 9/10/2001 And that's not counting most web-based news services, such as CNET or Salon.
But how many *individual* stories are those, as opposed to either wire service stories appearing in multiple newspapers or content skimmed from wire service stories mixed with other content? Is it really one set of FBI pronouncements being used in all of them, or is it multiple sources in the government hawking the same party-line memes to reporters, or is it actual multiple independent sources? Some of the stories probably also include reporters going to Usual Crypto Suspects like Schneier and Zimmermann asking for comments on the government/wireservice stories, which at least adds some independence and diversity. Possibly some of the reporters who've covered crypto issues in the past may have added things from their own knowledge. But for the most part I've seen articles that are basically all the same.
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Bill Stewart
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Declan McCullagh
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Tim May