CDR: Re: Carnivore All-Consuming
At 06:21 PM 11/19/00 +0000, Jim Dixon wrote:
A PC, using off-the-shelf HW, is capable of filtering a full 100 Mbps link (144K packets/sec) as demonstrated by the BlackICE products http://www.networkice.com/html/blackice_sentry.html steve
On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, Steve Schear wrote:
First, like any other manufacturer's claims, these should be treated with some skepticism. Second, this is an intrusion detection system. I suspect that they are looking for something simpler than what Carnivore is trying to detect. Third, even if you believe that they can really analyse data at 100 Mbps, this still doesn't give them the ability to handle more than one PoP with two DS3 connections. This is still orders of magnitude away from being able to handle a major site with multiple 2.5G connections, let alone all of the traffic handled by a major ISP. The original claim was that Carnivore could monitor all of an ISP's traffic. This isn't true for most ISPs. And the amazing growth rates that we are seeing in bandwidth and network complexity make it exceedingly unlikely that Carnivore or anything like it will ever catch up. Qwest deployed 14,000 miles of fibre some years ago. This was packaged as conduits carrying 48 fiber pairs, each pair using wave division multiplexing to carry 8 to 16 optical channels, with each channel running at 10 Gbps. That's 160 Gbps per fiber, 7,680 Gbps per conduit. Qwest is one of many carriers. 160 Gbps over a fiber pair isn't state of the art. Qwest has many conduits. If a PC can monitor 100M of bandwidth, it would take, uhm, about seventy seven thousand PCs to monitor one of Qwest's conduits. Not that I believe that one PC can monitor traffic at 100 Mbps.
-- Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd http://www.vbc.net tel +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015
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