This is great stuff! On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Nick M. Daly <nick.m.daly@gmail.com> wrote:

I'd *love* to see Tor and PageKite in the default image. I don't know if there'll be time/expertise to get Tor into the image before EOY, but we should be able to include PageKite, if nothing else. Bjarni's two line install instructions are confounding! :)

Nick

0: http://github.com/nickdaly/freedom-maker

1: http://github.com/nickdaly/plinth

2: http://github.com/nickdaly/freedombox-privoxy

So even though ownCloud has a nicer interface than pyUnhosted, getting apache, sqlite, GD, php5 and ownCloud 4.0.4 all on a device with basically the power of a smartphone might be a bit ambitious. Also, the whole point of the remoteStorage web architecture is that the storage is just dumb storage and that all functionality and actual niceness is in unhosted web apps to which you connect your remoteStorage dynamically, instead of doing server-side webpage generation. So let me think about what steps we would need: - add pagekite and pyUnhosted to the image. - right now pyUnhosted outputs information (including the password you need) to the console. that should be piped somehow to plinth, so that the user can actually see it. - IIUC, for privoxy to work out of the box, we still need a way for the freedombox to become the default proxy for all devices on the wifi. how does that work? The easiest UI for this would be if the freedombox emits a wifi signal. people will understand that. If the freedombox only lets through https and ssh traffic, then this wifi signal can be unencrypted, like for instance the wifi signal at fosdem or other big conferences, so we help with the open wifi movement http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/EFF-Pushes-For-Open-WiFi-Movement-114016 by default (of course if the user is opposed to bandwidth altruism for some reason then they should be able to switch it off in plinth). If the freedombox does not emit its own wifi single, then i cannot see an easy first-use experience, but maybe i'm missing something. - on first use, you would have to opt-in to setting up the public interface to your remoteStorage. so plinth would need a screen that say "choose your username and password at freedomstorage.org (or whatever we call it)", and from that moment on, it would be dialled in there, and ready for connecting your freedombox to unhosted web apps as remoteStorage. - we would have to set up said service, with for instance a 5-year plan included in the purchase of the off-the-shelf device. i know this proposal is only for creating the disk image, but we should also set up a pre-order production chain. As soon as 100 orders are in, we just organize a flashing-weekend, flash 100 devices in an afternoon, and ship them. - if we can resolve the first-use/wifi question then i think putting a box with privoxy+remoteStorage-through-pagekite on the market should be achievable. _______________________________________________ Freedombox-discuss mailing list Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE