
BS >>Assassination-Politics-Quality Anonymity *isn't* available or usable, I dont believe that you believe *that* Its bollocks anyway rip.
AP-Quality payer-and-payee-anonymous digital cash isn't available,
Op centre's BUMs are.AP in its Operation Soft Drill form protects the switch to e-cash,least thats the plan.rip van.
any discussion of "how could it be used?" or "like, that'd be cool, huh huh!", at least by people who *do* understand the technology and state of its deployment, is strictly speculative philosophical bullshitting, not active conspiracy.
Now, it's possible that the Fedz in question really understood this at
Jim Bell's such a mainstream sympathy-inspiring figure, especially with his alleged history of stink-bombing IRS offices and his alleged
Thanks,Ill be sure to call you as an expert witness.You might consider a career as a journalist or priest as added insurance.Just to be on the *safe*side. the time, I think they did,yet they carried on,thats what Im going to tell joshua.Robb london and jeff gordon deserve to die. paperwork-based harassment of bureaucrats and politicians allegedly with the so-called "common-law court" folks, some of whom allegedly *are* dangerous loons, that in the absence of extemely competent counsel, skilled at not only explaining really obscure technical material to hostile non-techies but also at dealing with seriously uncooperative clients, a conviction was a slam-dunk, so not only does it give them Federal Brownie Points for busting a "dangerous terrorist assassin" and preventing him from doing anything else real, but it serves as a deterrent for future JimBell-Wanabees who *don't* understand that the technology isn't there, and besides, he was in their face, and kept getting in their face after they'd successfully framed him. << Lock up all those out of the *mainstream*? Associating with loons? Said the Pot to the kettle.Counsel was sacked. Obscure technical detail?Like how to use a search engine! WTF! Federal points for spending a small fortune on someone who needed an intervention order,like thousands of others,every day.So he did pull 10 big ones for being a "dangerous terrorist assassin" In which case this is not *speculative philosophical bullshitting*.at all BS,its something very real and very dangerous to those deluded fools that think they rule us.Make up your fucking mind.It is or it isnt.They are or they aren't.Deterrent seems to have boomeranged on them as they look like keystone Kops for throwing the book at a shadow.Didnt deter CJ,didnt deter me and Iv'e had someone make a 'prediction' already.The publicity jim achieved with tactical brilliance alerted me to AP.How did you hear about it? The technology is right here,right now for AP to be used in its ,"let it all hang out" mode,or,as I like to call it,from the essay,operation *soft drill*.Look around,its here all right,in your face. Jim gets in the shit covered *face* of the authorities because he's an anarchist.Not a plastic timmy mayboy anarchist but a real flesh and blood anarchist.Are you or have you ever been a *crypto-anarchist*?
Is it likely that Jeff Gordon understood what was real about the tech and was doing this out of pure malice, as opposed to not understanding it and actually believing that Bell was a real threat? I doubt he cared enough about justice that, if he did come to understand that AP wasn't real, that he'd either apologize for his mistake or let it get in the way of an easy win.<<
It was noticed at the time the clash of interests.Claggart gordon lied about our billy jim budd.For that he should die,soon.
And CJ just kept jumping in the way yelling "Nyahh Nyahh" and looking wacko, and even back before 9/11, furriners didn't have civil rights, and he didn't get the "Oh, he's just Canadian" exception to that, because he was scaring the Canadians too.
Jesus H Christ scared the shit out of the moneychangers and might have hurt a child,actually he was under suspicion of pedophilia so its lucky they nailed him to a tree. Leonard peltier was kidnapped/deported from canada,hell I was.FUCK KANADA,FUCKING FASCIST AMERIKKKAS ASS BUDDIES! If its illegal to scare people,lock up cheney,asscroft and armitage.The whole rotten coup crew.Your real brave taking on people who cant answer back.
I've almost always found the weather in Seattle to be gorgeous, except one or two times that it was also pouring rain here in San Narcisco; maybe I'm just lucky. And Seattlers *smoke* a lot also, and it's always that nasty tobacco stuff, unlike down here :-)
So its true what they say about the long term effects.
But the bigger problems are that they're Fedz, and that they fundamentally don't have much useful work to do,
there's real hostility to them up there which they respond to in macho-tribal fashion, and face it, if you've got a choice of keeping your job by doing a big dangerous-terrorist bust, would *you* rather go after
Not like *me* the real Aryan Nations types, or would you rather go after a Jim Bell or CJ which gets you almost as many Brownie Points without actually being dangerous or requiring serious police work? Your a sack of wet brownies if you think those bozo's got anything out of it except decreased life expectancy.They are good at wasting taxpayers hardearned.Theres some real AN types on this list too btw,meet Tim May.and my east coast hitman.Some serious dangerous work was done in portland recently,Kudos to my e-mail mate in the PPD.
Sure, your coworkers might know it's a sucker play, but it looks almost as good on the paperwork that goes to Washington, which is good for the budget and your department's reputation, and in return they'll be happy you got this annoyance out of their face, and it's not like they're getting much non-cynical self-respect out of what they're usually doing.
Great insight,sure your not a *fed*? You must be,or else your off your face.Why dont you smell what your shovelling.

At 06:49 PM 12/18/2001 +1100, mattd wrote:
any discussion of "how could it be used?" or "like, that'd be cool, huh huh!", at least by people who *do* understand the technology and state of its deployment, is strictly speculative philosophical bullshitting, not active conspiracy.
Thanks,Ill be sure to call you as an expert witness.You might consider a career as a journalist or priest as added insurance.Just to be on the *safe*side.
Hey, Protestantism gave us the "priesthood of all believers", and if that's too much work, the ULC will ordain you for $20. The Internet lets everybody be a journalist, or at least a political commentator. Won't be a problem getting either of those jobs :-) (However, as many people have discovered with acting or Internet startup, getting a job in the field is easy, but getting a *paying* job is tougher...)

On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Bill Stewart wrote:
Hey, Protestantism gave us the "priesthood of all believers", and if that's too much work, the ULC will ordain you for $20.
Actually, the ULC will make you for free - the $20.00 "love offering" is just if you want the cool plastic ID card and the Doctor of Divinity title that accompanies it ;-) Oh that the Catholic Church would be so up front about their real intentions! -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
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