Cooked/umodified lists? (was: Re: MIME-encoded PGP / GPG...)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 on Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 01:15:54PM -0700, Meyer Wolfsheim (wolf@priori.net) wrote:
I'm not set up to run same, but I'm interested in finding one that doesn't demime.
I don't see a 'cooked' filter, unmodified, list. Am I missing something? How bad's the spam? Peace. - -- Karsten M. Self <kmself@ix.netcom.com> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the brave http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ Land of the free Free Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hire http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7slGWOEeIn1XyubARAiHGAJ9ncTdjQyu/tJv3b/A3ZalBbDTkGwCfQu4f YAgndrm9JCjDCpgqDWCgtv8= =ZZbG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
At 03:07 PM 09/26/2001 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
on Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 01:15:54PM -0700, Meyer Wolfsheim (wolf@priori.net) wrote:
I'm not set up to run same, but I'm interested in finding one that doesn't demime. http://www.ssz.com/cdr/index.html
I don't see a 'cooked' filter, unmodified, list. Am I missing something?
How bad's the spam?
The spam was fairly bad - now that I've been on the lne.com list, there's much less that gets through. (Yay!). I've found the message-mangling less annoying than the spam. One problem you'll find is that even if you mutt-sign your messages, the people on the lne.com list are going to receive them de-mimed, so you can't depend on the mutt-mime-sigs getting through. I don't mind MIME attachments, much, though it's much nicer to be able to read PGP-signed messages inline than to have to double-click on the things and feed them to PGP just to read them; the versions of Mutt that didn't have this problem were almost always hand-hacked by users who didn't like mutt's choices of options. I use Eudora, which AFAIK doesn't lie about attachment filenames, (e.g. the classic attack on MS Mail products of sending something named foo.doc.exe or bar.jpg.pif and triggering an executable), so I think I've been safe when I've opened attachments. But I'd generally rather not have to deal with them.
Howdy, On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote:
I don't see a 'cooked' filter, unmodified, list. Am I missing something?
I break them into 'unfiltered' and 'moderated'. The distinction is whether the node modifies the email based on content to their subscribers. The nodes themselves pass along a back-bone that is supposed to have zero, nada, no modification. We all use duplicate filtering.
How bad's the spam?
There is a reason that lne.com is popular. It can on occassion hit hundreds. It's worth mentioning that even without the spam, the list traffic is pretty high by most standards that I've ever run across. It can also be quite heated. If you've got thin skin or can't handle 200 emails a day (it doesn't run that all the time) in addition to your current load you might want to stick with lne.com or one of the other moderated nodes. The policies of the individual nodes are completely up to the node operator and their individual subscribers. Outside of that I've not kept up with what each one offers with respect to policy. The SSZ node is completely unmodified outside of loop detection and adding CDR: to emails coming FROM ssz.com only, and setting a reply-to: ssz.com for same. This policy is not based on message content, but message source. I also have an 'anonymizer' account (ie cpunks_anon@ssz.com) which strips all header information except time and subject. It is intended to provide anonymity from the list itself (and nothing more). -- ____________________________________________________________________ Kill them all, take their land, and go there for vacation. Rage Against The Machine The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
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