[psychohistory] Two mistakes (fwd)
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 22:51:49 +0300
From: "[iso-8859-7] Χρήστος Κώνστας"
Jim Choate wrote:
Nations with imperial aspirations, invariably, throughout History change their conscript based army in favor of an army of paid soldiers. Today euphimisticaly called 'profesional' soldiers, but know also as mercenaries and soldiers of fortune in the not-so-distant past. (Note: Ligustically a "soldier" is 'someone-who-is-SOLD' anyway).
Psst - your ignorance is showing! The French term "soldier" refers to a warrior who is paid - "solde" means pay - as contrasted originally with feudal levies, who were not. Nowadays the distinction is meaningless because even conscripts are paid at regular rates, so we say "professional soldier" for a volunteer and "conscript" for a short-term draftee. A . "Salary," by the way, refers to a portion of the pay of the Roman legionaire, which was paid in salt.
Now this trend is well documented in past history and definately has its own Psychohistorical significance as it's one of the notable 'landmarks' of an Imperium (ie. a nation/state pursuing local/regional/global hegemony - dominance).
The US eliminates involuntary military servitude, and you call it imperialism. It develops a career army, and you call it mercenary. I know this won't make any impression on you, but do try to consider the obvious military advantages of having continuity in training, experience and DISCIPLINE. I would just add that by your criterion, Canada must be planning to take over the world because they have always had a professional military in all services!
Of course profesional soldiers are in for the money and generally do not look forward to a glorious death in Afganistan,
Have you ever actually talked to a US soldier? I don't think anybody "looks forward" to death in combat, but if you think our military is intimidated by the likes of OBL or the Taliban, you obviously don't know much about the current state of morale in the US military. And your ignorance shows again when you say professional soldiers are "in it for the money" - you contradict yourself. How much would it cost to convince YOU to put your life on the line? There probably isn't enough money in the world for that, because you are a moral coward, and such people tend to be physical cowards as well. Fortunately, your kind is the exception, something you are naturally incapable of perceiving from your perspective. Marc de Piolenc
Psst...I didn't write it. On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
Jim Choate wrote:
Nations with imperial aspirations, invariably, throughout History change their conscript based army in favor of an army of paid soldiers. Today euphimisticaly called 'profesional' soldiers, but know also as mercenaries and soldiers of fortune in the not-so-distant past. (Note: Ligustically a "soldier" is 'someone-who-is-SOLD' anyway).
Psst - your ignorance is showing! The French term "soldier" refers to a
-- ____________________________________________________________________ The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. Edmund Burke (1784) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
That's funny - the post had your return address in the header. Somebody trying to make you look bad? Superfluous, if so. Marc Jim Choate wrote:
Psst...I didn't write it.
On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
Jim Choate wrote:
Nations with imperial aspirations, invariably, throughout History change their conscript based army in favor of an army of paid soldiers. Today euphimisticaly called 'profesional' soldiers, but know also as mercenaries and soldiers of fortune in the not-so-distant past. (Note: Ligustically a "soldier" is 'someone-who-is-SOLD' anyway).
Psst - your ignorance is showing! The French term "soldier" refers to a
-- ____________________________________________________________________
The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.
Edmund Burke (1784)
The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-- Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776 Rather than make war on the American people and their liberties, ...Congress should be looking for ways to empower them to protect themselves when warranted. They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
No it doesn't you dunder head. It's a forward from another list. All I did was forward it, I didn't write it. Keep practicing reading those headers, you'll get it right sooner or later. On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
That's funny - the post had your return address in the header. Somebody trying to make you look bad? Superfluous, if so.
Marc
Jim Choate wrote:
Psst...I didn't write it.
On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
Jim Choate wrote:
Nations with imperial aspirations, invariably, throughout History
-- ____________________________________________________________________ The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. Edmund Burke (1784) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
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