"US Patriot Financial (USPF) exists to help Americans, who risk their lives making this world a better place, obtain life insurance. This includes resident aliens. Whether you are a soldier deploying overseas, a DOD contractor helping to rebuild war torn countries, a missionary volunteering to help the most needy, or a business man or woman traveling the globe to support our economy we can help. Using our extensive network of life insurance carriers, we are able to provide protection to those whose service leads them into some of the world's most dangerous places. This includes US citizens living abroad." http://www.uspfinancial.com/ How long have soldiers deployed in war-zones been able to get life insurance? Would love to see their actuarial process... W
On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 08:38, Will Morton wrote:
How long have soldiers deployed in war-zones been able to get life insurance? Would love to see their actuarial process...
It's been a while since I was in the US Army, but I'm sure that the life insurance we had didn't cover parachute-related deaths and I vaguely recall it didn't cover combat deaths. Kinda serious omissions, from the soldier's point of view.
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004, Steve Furlong wrote:
It's been a while since I was in the US Army, but I'm sure that the life insurance we had didn't cover parachute-related deaths and I vaguely recall it didn't cover combat deaths. Kinda serious omissions, from the soldier's point of view.
If I'm not mistaken, that's because there are other provisions elsewhere in a soldier's "benefit" package to cover those omissions. I know not what those would be atm. -Chuck -- http://www.quantumlinux.com Quantum Linux Laboratories, LLC. ACCELERATING Business with Open Technology "The measure of the restoration lies in the extent to which we apply social values more noble than mere monetary profit." - FDR
Can we please get out of the regional fixation? The cypherpunks list isn't about the US, US pissant wars, and similiar boring backwater shit. It's too bad this list is dying a death of a thousand paper cuts inflicted by moronic posts, as so many others had. I haven't used a .procmailrc in a couple years, perhaps we can postpone this with a little collective effort. On Thu, Nov 25, 2004 at 01:38:58PM +0000, Will Morton wrote:
"US Patriot Financial (USPF) exists to help Americans, who risk their lives making this world a better place, obtain life insurance. This includes resident aliens. Whether you are a soldier deploying overseas, a DOD contractor helping to rebuild war torn countries, a missionary volunteering to help the most needy, or a business man or woman traveling the globe to support our economy we can help. Using our extensive network of life insurance carriers, we are able to provide protection to those whose service leads them into some of the world's most dangerous places. This includes US citizens living abroad."
How long have soldiers deployed in war-zones been able to get life insurance? Would love to see their actuarial process...
W -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a>
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On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 16:16, Eugen Leitl wrote:
Can we please get out of the regional fixation? The cypherpunks list isn't about the US, US pissant wars, and similiar boring backwater shit.
Response 1: When the US sneezes, the world catches a cold. Response 2: The cpunks list isn't US-centric, but most of the regular posters are in the US. Even if you don't count Bob Hettinga because he mostly forwards news articles rather than write original content, and don't count Tyler Durden and me because we're idiots, I think you still have mostly Americans posting.
Well, I guess I agree. However, there is some issues of Cypherpunkly importance here, particularly concerning nation-states fighting other nation-states. Though I can't consider myself a true-believing anarchist, my own personal reason for continuing to post on the subject was to illustrate that, as long as Group-of-Bandits X continues to utilize our tax dollars to fuck over geographically removed Group of Bandits Y (and their citizenry), then some form of local resistance a la Blacknet (and arguably more drastic measures) might be called for, irregardless of how much Group-of-Bandits X (and their hypnotized citzenry) believe they're marching on God's orders. -TD
From: Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org> To: cypherpunks@al-qaeda.net Subject: Re: Patriot Insurance Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 22:16:02 +0100
Can we please get out of the regional fixation? The cypherpunks list isn't about the US, US pissant wars, and similiar boring backwater shit.
It's too bad this list is dying a death of a thousand paper cuts inflicted by moronic posts, as so many others had. I haven't used a .procmailrc in a couple years, perhaps we can postpone this with a little collective effort.
On Thu, Nov 25, 2004 at 01:38:58PM +0000, Will Morton wrote:
"US Patriot Financial (USPF) exists to help Americans, who risk their lives making this world a better place, obtain life insurance. This includes resident aliens. Whether you are a soldier deploying overseas, a DOD contractor helping to rebuild war torn countries, a missionary volunteering to help the most needy, or a business man or woman traveling the globe to support our economy we can help. Using our extensive network of life insurance carriers, we are able to provide protection to those whose service leads them into some of the world's most dangerous places. This includes US citizens living abroad."
How long have soldiers deployed in war-zones been able to get life insurance? Would love to see their actuarial process...
W -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a>
ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net
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-- On 25 Nov 2004 at 21:42, Tyler Durden wrote:
Well, I guess I agree. However, there is some issues of Cypherpunkly importance here, particularly concerning nation-states fighting other nation-states. Though I can't consider myself a true-believing anarchist, my own personal reason for continuing to post on the subject was to illustrate that, as long as Group-of-Bandits X continues to utilize our tax dollars to fuck over geographically removed Group of Bandits Y (and their citizenry), then some form of local resistance a la Blacknet (and arguably more drastic measures) might be called for, irregardless of how much Group-of-Bandits X (and their hypnotized citzenry) believe they're marching on God's orders.
I would like to clarify my own position, which is in some important ways different from your own: I am not in favor of myself, or any one else in America, being sacrificed for the greater good of Iraqi democracy, and since Iraqi democracy is likely to consist of 51% voting to bugger the other 49%, I can understand the position of those Iraqis who are fighting to resist the imposition of democracy. But if they fight by taking hostages and mutilating them on television, then by all means let us have them sodomized. I don't want Americans sent to fight by their stupid government, but if they are sent to fight, I am in favor of them winning and the guys they are fighting dying, and if it means destroying the village to save it, serves the goat fuckers right. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG QILwOoAZoZRoKhP5l5fyQXQ021Gs0UkjXIXPRZ3A 4zkLA6Uyu1rxD5xgNBbsjEbA+HajLJfiHBPRZEEK3
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