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Perhaps, but I'll take the position it's real until more evidence appears to the contrary. Peter Trei

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Agreed,I too was surprised by the implosions.Long live USAMA BIN LADEN,VIVA! Death to the fascist snakes of...etc. From a previous post by peter trei. thereof. The only thing which can really be said about subscribers in general is that they think crypto is >>worth discussing. You might enjoy http://www.viopac.com/ and as Tim said way back round 97,"We'll know we've succeeded when by our direct action we are regarded as terrorists." (rough quote)