And I will tell each of you the same thing I sent to you earlier this week- There is not an email address of cyberpunks@toad.com subscribed to Gagler's Joke of the Day. Now that we have that established (yet again), did you ever think about this: could there be a different email address one of you subscribed under, which automatically goes to your distribution list? Is there a member of the list's name/email who could be receiving one of our mailings as a subscriber, and that email is automatically forwarded to your distribution list? Look, I asked for *one* copy of one of the daily emails so I can see how the mail server has you subscribed so we can get this taken care of - strangely, each of you would rather just send flame emails than try and correct your problem. When you feel like acting like an adult, please feel free to contact me. Threatening someone who has 300,000+ people on a mailing list who will generally do things as requested, such as myself, with spam is rather stupid, don't you think? Regards, Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Wilson" <netsurf@sersol.com> To: "A. Melon" <juicy@melontraffickers.com>; <cypherpunks@toad.com>; <gagler@gagler.com>; <ip.engineering@datareturn.com>; <abuse@datareturn.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:25 AM Subject: RE: Unsubscribe broken while you spam this address

Send them the bounce messages that show that their unsubscribe script is broken.

They also need a clue-by-four upside the head for their piss-poor attitude.

If everyone on the list sent complaints to abuse@datareturn.com, root@datareturn.com, ip.engineering@datareturn.com we might get some action as well, since datareturn.com are the ISP who host the spammers website.

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-----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@toad.com]On Behalf Of A. Melon Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 1:09 AM To: cypherpunks@toad.com; gagler@gagler.com Subject: Re: Unsubscribe broken while you spam this address

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Which one of our 8 lists could you not followthe instructions?

Thanks-

Gagler

Why don't we subscribe Gagler@Gagler.com to the cypherpunks list? It is absurd that they haven't removed cypherpunks@toad.com from their jokes list, after being asked repeatedly.