Re: MARTIAL LAW Cypherpunks and terrorism
-- Dr. Joe Baptista
They are the symbols of a struggle that has been going on for many years. A struggle against oppression and planned genocide in which the United States has been a significant contributor and supporter. i.e. Israel's oppression of the palestinians, i.e. south africa, i.e. east timor etc. etc. etc.
Arabs are by default very nobel, trustworthy and honourable people. But they are not cows. They will not bow their heads as their civilization is brutalized and raped. They will fight back with the vengence that is the holy jihad
You might have a point if some of the terrorists actually had been brutalized -- if for example some of them were palestinians that had been roughed up by Israeli soldiers. They were not. This was not an attack on America for any specific things the American government has done -- it is an an attack on Americans for being being free and rich, while arabs have inflicted slavery and poverty on themselves, an attack on Amercans for being American. When two hundred US soldiers were blown up for meddling in Lebanon, the US government go out of Lebanon. The US public is not going to stop being American, and will kill as many arabs as is needed to ensure that they are allowed to be the people that they are. If modest violence suffices, modest violence will be used. If modest violence does not suffice, the process will continue till no arabs remain. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG 3t6naPZegDrRaTbM+ox6sVekeuRo+n/CtNeRqs+ 43Az2L+3CHnhDub/sVrxA+d8qvrcA6IgidF4t0EzU
James - I find your statements incredible. America is being attacked for being rich and free? I don't think so. That is however a good argument as to why people immigrate there - but that's the extent of it. If these people are arabs - and i still don't have any proof of that - then we can assume they blew up the WTC in protest of americas support of terror and antidemocratic institutions - i.e. the palestinian israel problems. The jihad is an action against the fundamental laws of Allah (God) which are more or less the same laws outlined in the holy bible - old testament. The jihad is an action against those who offend the word and laws of God. Being free and being rich is not an offense against God. However claiming to be the advicates of democracy and freedom while simultaneously supporting offensive regeims is an offense against God and common sense for that matter. Last night I had the opportunity of watching the CBC a canadian program. It was a public participation forum - and i'll tell you anytime the american advocates claimed they were bombed because it was an attack against democracy and freedom all the canadian participants laughed. It became ridiculous watching this. I have many american friends who are very angry these days. Many very depressed. Many have lost a great deal. And this is fueling a potential war which will make vietnam look like a broadway comedy. many american boys are going to die over this one and i find that an even greater tragedy. Don't forget James - if in fact Bin Landen is involved in this then the facts remain that the US Government sponsored and assisted him during the Russian occupation of afganistan. So we can argue here that your government not only has created arab hatred against itself by sponsoring organizations which oppress the arabs - but the US has also been instramental in setting up the very infrastructure Ben Laden has used to train these "terrorists". My greatest fear is that the american people are going to go to war. A war which will inevitably be imported onto US soil. How many Timothy Mcveis are there ticking in america. And how many arab extremists are in the U.S. But in the worst case senariou maybe this has to happen. Maybe america need to feel the impact of terror that Israeli citizens has felt in order for it to realize that Democracy and Freedoms are fundamental to all citizens on this planet - and not a perk based on nationality, creed nor color. And I find that possibility very regretable. regards joe On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 jamesd@echeque.com wrote:
This was not an attack on America for any specific things the American government has done -- it is an an attack on Americans for being being free and rich, while arabs have inflicted slavery and poverty on themselves, an attack on Amercans for being American.
When two hundred US soldiers were blown up for meddling in Lebanon, the US government go out of Lebanon. The US public is not going to stop being American, and will kill as many arabs as is needed to ensure that they are allowed to be the people that they are. If modest violence suffices, modest violence will be used. If modest violence does not suffice, the process will continue till no arabs remain.
--digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG 3t6naPZegDrRaTbM+ox6sVekeuRo+n/CtNeRqs+ 43Az2L+3CHnhDub/sVrxA+d8qvrcA6IgidF4t0EzU
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