http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2998870.stm "With Iraq's judicial system in disarray after the end of the war, Paul Bremer said a special criminal court would be set up. He said the court would try people, "in particular senior Baathists... may have committed crimes against the coalition, who are trying to destabilise the situation"." So you invade a country, and the patriots who resist you are no longer soldiers, even guerillas, but "criminals" to be tried in the US's weird new courts, probably secretly with no representation. Velkomen, to ze New Verld Order. Sieg Heil! And may Jesus bless you. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 04:15 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2998870.stm
"With Iraq's judicial system in disarray after the end of the war, Paul Bremer said a special criminal court would be set up.
He said the court would try people, "in particular senior Baathists... may have committed crimes against the coalition, who are trying to destabilise the situation"."
So you invade a country, and the patriots who resist you are no longer soldiers, even guerillas, but "criminals" to be tried in the US's weird new courts, probably secretly with no representation.
Velkomen, to ze New Verld Order. Sieg Heil! And may Jesus bless you.
Yes, this is the logic. Discussed in many other fora. And not new. When the U.S. "liberated" Somalia the first thing they did was to seize control of the press and begin to collect the guns...then the "warlords" were able to operate freely amongst the disarmed peasants, and ultimately the U.S. got its ass kicked and left in shame. The U.S. believes in basic rights for _some_ Americans, but certainly for none of the sand niggers it conquers. It declares the soldiers it fights to be "illegal combatants" and subjects them to torture at Guantanamo Bay. I hope some captured U.S. soldiers are declared to be "illegal combatants" and similarly tortured and murdered. As for Bush, Cheney, Rice, Powell, Wolfowitz, Perle and the rest of the Jew, er, New World Order, I hope they are eventually tried for treason for their lies and, if found guilty of lying about the supposed "WMDs," then hanged in a public square. Actually, I hope General Powell first does the honorable thing and uses his .45 for its Approved Alternative Shame-Reduction Purpose. (Note to the SS Gestapo: This is a statement of my protected political beliefs about what the court system of the U.S. _should_ do, not a statement of what freedom fighters plan to do. When freedom fighters act, the act will be a blinding white flash over the Criminal Capital, not some bullshit hanging of some run-of-the-mill criminals like Bush, Hitler, Rice, Goebbels, Powell, Mussolini, Wolfwowitz, Quisling, etc. ) The United States needs to have its hard drive reformatted. --Tim May
At 06:15 PM 06/17/2003 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2998870.stm "With Iraq's judicial system in disarray after the end of the war, Paul Bremer said a special criminal court would be set up. He said the court would try people, "in particular senior Baathists... may have committed crimes against the coalition, who are trying to destabilise the situation"."
So you invade a country, and the patriots who resist you are no longer soldiers, even guerillas, but "criminals" to be tried in the US's weird new courts, probably secretly with no representation.
Yup. And USA Today was referring to the US military reserve soldiers who were sent there as "Citizen Soldiers", but of course *Iraqis* who fought the invaders weren't "citizen soldiers", they were "terrorists" or "illegal combatants" or "evil" or "failing to act sufficiently French by surrendering". And since the US Constitution doesn't apply to US forces operating outside the US, there's no prohibition against "ex post facto" laws about "crimes against the coalition", and of course the Bush Administration bullied Brussels into exempting their armed forces from war crimes laws.
hi, Did any one say the US system works based on logic :-) The news here is that on an average one US soidler dies per day to a iraqi sniper particlually in crowded areas where you cant blow of a whole builiding immediately.Maybe this is the wierd logic that the iraqi's follow.Even they too have the right to follow their own logic. Only problem is that innocent soldiers on both sides are the sufferers due to a bunch of intelligent people who say they are doing it in national interest while they are doing it for themselves in both nations. Sarath. --- Bill Stewart <bill.stewart@pobox.com> wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2998870.stm "With Iraq's judicial system in disarray after the end of the war, Paul Bremer said a special criminal court would be set up. He said the court would try people, "in particular senior Baathists... may have committed crimes against the coalition, who are
situation"."
So you invade a country, and the patriots who resist you are no longer soldiers, even guerillas, but "criminals" to be
At 06:15 PM 06/17/2003 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: trying to destabilise the tried in the US's weird new
courts, probably secretly with no representation.
Yup. And USA Today was referring to the US military reserve soldiers who were sent there as "Citizen Soldiers", but of course *Iraqis* who fought the invaders weren't "citizen soldiers", they were "terrorists" or "illegal combatants" or "evil" or "failing to act sufficiently French by surrendering".
And since the US Constitution doesn't apply to US forces operating outside the US, there's no prohibition against "ex post facto" laws about "crimes against the coalition", and of course the Bush Administration bullied Brussels into exempting their armed forces from war crimes laws.
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