I'd like to move the date to one day later, Saturday the 30th September 2000. several people have remarked that a friday is difficult for those who can't take a day off at work or whatever. also, I think we will have enough interesting people with topics, so there will surely be no boredom. I'm continuing my search for a place to meet now, with a few rough guidelines to the number of people. from mails here and in private I judge that at least 10 people will surely attend, and possibly up to 50. I'll look for a place that will be comfortable for 10-50 people. so if you plan to fly in two dozen cypherpunks from somewhere, please give me a notice. :) that's also true for anyone who needs help with travel arrangements or a place to stay for a night or two. send a mail either to me or to the list.