Time for eJazeera! The answer is obvious: Ubiquitous default instant wireless upload of photos to the internet. This is a battle they can't, in the long run, win. -TD

From: Eugen Leitl To: cypherpunks@jfet.org Subject: [declan@well.com: [Politech] The NYPD can take photos of you -- but you can't turn your lens on them [fs]] Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:00:33 +0200

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From: Declan McCullagh Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 23:39:50 -0700 To: Politech Subject: [Politech] The NYPD can take photos of you -- but you can't turn your lens on them [fs] User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Macintosh/20051201)

What thuggish behavior. Kudos to the Village Voice for publicizing this.

I've been accosted (though not arrested) for taking photos on public sidewalks/streets in Washington, DC. The two times that come to mind were before 9/11. Photos of the Feds in question: http://www.mccullagh.org/image/d30-5/capitol-police.html http://www.mccullagh.org/image/d30-5/pennsylvania-ave-setup-cop.html

-Declan

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Politech Submission: The NYPD wants to take your picturebbut beware of turning your lens on the cops Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:43:35 -0400 From: John Albino To: declan@well.com

From the Village Voice of April 10:

"Watching the Detectives "The NYPD wants to take your pictureB-but beware of turning your lens on the cops"

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0615,ferguson,72804,5.html

"But police evidently aren't so keen on surveillance when the cameras are turned on themB-particularly when those cameras show them abusing free-street-parking privileges.

"On March 27, two volunteers from the advocacy group Transportation Alternatives were detained for taking pictures of police officers' private cars, which were parked on the sidewalk outside the Fifth Precinct in Chinatown. The volunteers say they were held and questioned at the precinct for about 20 minutes and instructed to erase the pictures.

""It was intimidating. I was afraid they were going to arrest me," says Brian Hoberman, 37, who works as a researcher for the city's Rent Guidelines Board." -- John Albino mailto:jalbino(AT)jwalbino.com

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