CDR: Greetins from ZOG-occupied Palestine
Tim May, the heavily armed hate monger who refers to ZOG, and , his extreme right wing malitia friends have missed there chance. Certainly the 400 of us needed killing before we influence the American Presidential election. At 03:26 PM 11/10/00 , Tim May wrote:
Now we hear of calls urging dual-citizenship residents of ZOG-occupied Palestine to send in absentee ballots to Florida, especially for the estimated 400 dual-citizenship, or visiting tourists, from Palm Beach County.
The claim is that if they can "prove" they were unable to have them postmarked by the time polls closed in Florida, due to the violence or whatever, that maybe they will still be allowed in. (And I wouldn't put it past the ZOG to rig the postmarks and then put the ballots on a fast jet to Florida.)
If you could spell, or type, correctly, I'd have a little more respect for your posts. There is not their. If English is not your first language and you need some off-line advice about homophones, I'll be glad to help. MacN On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 auto9950013@hushmail.com wrote:
Tim May, the heavily armed hate monger who refers to ZOG, and , his extreme right wing malitia friends have missed there chance. Certainly the 400 of us needed killing before we influence the American Presidential election.
At 03:26 PM 11/10/00 , Tim May wrote:
Now we hear of calls urging dual-citizenship residents of ZOG-occupied Palestine to send in absentee ballots to Florida, especially for the estimated 400 dual-citizenship, or visiting tourists, from Palm Beach County.
The claim is that if they can "prove" they were unable to have them postmarked by the time polls closed in Florida, due to the violence or whatever, that maybe they will still be allowed in. (And I wouldn't put it past the ZOG to rig the postmarks and then put the ballots on a fast jet to Florida.)
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 auto9950013@hushmail.com wrote:
Tim May, the heavily armed hate monger who refers to ZOG, and , his extreme right wing malitia friends have missed there chance. Certainly the 400 of us needed killing before we influence the American Presidential election.
actually, since ballots were supposed to be postmarked two days ago, killing you now wouldn't help (even if I were for it, which I'm not, personally) unless something very bad were going on.... Ph.
At 8:34 PM -0600 11/10/00, Phaedrus wrote:
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 auto9950013@hushmail.com wrote:
Tim May, the heavily armed hate monger who refers to ZOG, and , his extreme right wing malitia friends have missed there chance. Certainly the 400 of us needed killing before we influence the American Presidential election.
actually, since ballots were supposed to be postmarked two days ago, killing you now wouldn't help (even if I were for it, which I'm not, personally) unless something very bad were going on....
I'm not so sure...killing auto 9950013@hushmail.com may still be useful. I think I know who george@orwellian.org is, based on text comparisons. My guess is that both of them need to be tracked down and killed. Allah will know his own. --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
At 08:34 PM 11/10/00 -0600, Phaedrus wrote:
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 auto9950013@hushmail.com wrote:
Tim May, the heavily armed hate monger who refers to ZOG, and , his
extreme
right wing malitia friends have missed there chance.
So is "malitia" a bunch of bad soldiers?
Certainly the 400 of us needed killing before we influence the American Presidential election.
actually, since ballots were supposed to be postmarked two days ago, killing you now wouldn't help (even if I were for it, which I'm not, personally) unless something very bad were going on....
Yup. It's now in the hands of disgruntled Postal Workers. (And apparently there _has_ been a certain amount of malfeasance in handling the mail ballots, though it's not clear the P.O. were directly involved. And the Postmaster General's on the succession list, at least in the 1947 version.) Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart@pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639
At 1:19 AM -0800 11/11/00, Bill Stewart wrote:
At 08:34 PM 11/10/00 -0600, Phaedrus wrote:
actually, since ballots were supposed to be postmarked two days ago, killing you now wouldn't help (even if I were for it, which I'm not, personally) unless something very bad were going on....
Yup. It's now in the hands of disgruntled Postal Workers.
(And apparently there _has_ been a certain amount of malfeasance in handling the mail ballots, though it's not clear the P.O. were directly involved. And the Postmaster General's on the succession list, at least in the 1947 version.)
Speaking of malfeasance in handling the mailed ballots, I heard a Democrat spinmeister saying last night that foreign consulates can advise their local Americans that they can "sign an affidavit saying they tried to get a November 7th postmark but were unable to do so." He said: "Americans in other countries can still send in their ballots with a signed affidavit attesting that they had been unable to get a November 7th postmark." So, those FedExed ballots from Kosovo or Israel or China may not have been sent until...today. Hilarious. Things are falling apart better and with more acrimony than I'd hoped. Republicans are threatening to demand a recount of 22,000 (yes, more than in Palm Beach County) uncounted/spoiled ballots in a northern Florida county which went 60,000-to-40,000 for Bush over Gore. They expect that if these odds hold up, as expected, that Bush could pick up thousands of votes in this heavily Republican county. And so it goes, with recounts, judicial adjustments, do overs, and other such things requested in dozens, then hundreds, then thousands of counties. --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
On Sat, Nov 11, 2000 at 09:05:54AM -0800, Tim May wrote:
Hilarious. Things are falling apart better and with more acrimony than I'd hoped. [...snip...] And so it goes, with recounts, judicial adjustments, do overs, and other such things requested in dozens, then hundreds, then thousands of counties.
As much as I'd appreciate, purely from the perspective of continued amusement, this perpetual election to continue, I suspect it won't. At least some Dems are publicly telling Al to back down: http://www.perpetualelection.com/article.pl?sid=00/11/11/090229 If Al's stated litigiousness becomes perceived as a liability, we might see a kind of trip from Capitol Hill to the Naval Observatory to tell Al enough is enough. The irony is that one of the senators most tempermentally likely to do so is, of course, the Dem VP candidate. -Declan
At 2:43 PM -0500 11/11/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Sat, Nov 11, 2000 at 09:05:54AM -0800, Tim May wrote:
Hilarious. Things are falling apart better and with more acrimony than I'd hoped. [...snip...] And so it goes, with recounts, judicial adjustments, do overs, and other such things requested in dozens, then hundreds, then thousands of counties.
As much as I'd appreciate, purely from the perspective of continued amusement, this perpetual election to continue, I suspect it won't.
At least some Dems are publicly telling Al to back down: http://www.perpetualelection.com/article.pl?sid=00/11/11/090229
If Al's stated litigiousness becomes perceived as a liability, we might see a kind of trip from Capitol Hill to the Naval Observatory to tell Al enough is enough. The irony is that one of the senators most tempermentally likely to do so is, of course, the Dem VP candidate.
* Stage One of the FUD Campaign, Wednesday morning: "They found a whole box of ballots in an inner city, Democratic-leaning, pre-school! This will throw the election to Gore." (quickly turned out that this alleged ballot box contained stationery supplies) * Stage Two of the FUD Campaign, Wednesday evening: "Thousands of elderly Jewish voters were tricked by the confusing ballot into voting for Pat Buchanan." (turned out that, based on interviews, nearly every Jew in Palm Beach County claims to have accidentally voted for Buchanan, or double-voted. The numbers don't support this, and other counties had spoiled ballots, too. A Republican-leaning county in northern Florida had 22,000 spoiled ballots.) * Stage Three of the FUD Campaign, all day Thursday and continuing: "At least 20,000 ballots were spoiled because elderly Jewish Democrats got confused and tried to vote for Gore after discovering they accidentally voted for Buchanan. We demand a re-vote!" * Stage Four of the FUD Campaign, current: "We demand a manual recount. Two counts, the first one and then the state-mandated machine recount, are not enough. We are certain that if certain counties are counted again, and again, that the extra votes we need will be found." [As Jesse Jackson and Johnnie Cockroach might singsong: "If our lead does not mount, you must re-count!'] * Stage Five of the FUD Campaign, ongoing: "The whole Electoral Thing is a throwback to the whitemale patriarchy. What matters is the popular vote, the first one, before Bush temporarily took the lead by manipulating the recounts in New Mexico, Wisconsin, Iowa, and other states. The Peeples spoke on Tuesday night!" A lot of Democrats need to be dealt with when this is (temporarily) through. --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
At 11:55 AM -0800 11/11/00, Tim May wrote:
* Stage Four of the FUD Campaign, current: "We demand a manual recount. Two counts, the first one and then the state-mandated machine recount, are not enough. We are certain that if certain counties are counted again, and again, that the extra votes we need will be found."
[As Jesse Jackson and Johnnie Cockroach might singsong: "If our lead does not mount, you must re-count!']
* Stage 4.5 of the FUD Campaign, Saturday afternoon: "It's the chads, the little pieces of paper punched out but hanging by a thread." (How appropriate: "hanging by a thread") The Democrats are demanding that ballots marked as spoiled be checked to see if they have "indentations" or "chads." Of course, how these indentations or chads have anything to do with Democrats vs. Republicans is unclear... Except that the Democrat Party is requesting the recounts in heavily Democrat precincts! They understand that by recounting, and recounting, and then switching to manual analysis of ballots IN DEMOCRAT-LEANING PRECINCTS they can probably pick up some additional votes for Gore. Simple statistics. The obvious point is that such additional vacuum-cleaning should not be allowed. And if it is allowed in a single precinct, absent some strong evidence that that precinct had precinct-specific "chad problems" with its machines, then ALL precincts should be counted in an identical fashion. A daunting, and expensive, and time-consuming process. A manual inspection of six million ballots will take several weeks. Which may be the Gore strategy, ironically. Get the process in Florida so bogged-down that Florida is left out of the Electoral College process on December 18th. According to many legal scholars, the election would then hinge on a majority of those who were at the EC meeting, even if Florida were to be absent. Advantage: Gore. Fucked up, yes. --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
At 1:04 PM -0800 11/11/00, Tim May wrote:
At 11:55 AM -0800 11/11/00, Tim May wrote:
* Stage Four of the FUD Campaign, current: "We demand a manual recount. Two
* Stage 4.5 of the FUD Campaign, Saturday afternoon: "It's the chads, the little pieces of paper punched out but hanging by a thread." (How appropriate: "hanging by a thread") The Democrats are demanding that ballots marked as spoiled be checked to see if they have "indentations" or "chads."
Of course, how these indentations or chads have anything to do with Democrats vs. Republicans is unclear...
Except that the Democrat Party is requesting the recounts in heavily Democrat precincts!
* Stage 4.6 of the FUD Campaign, late Saturday afternoon: It was just revealed on Fox News that the northern Florida county with the 20,000 spoiled ballots is Duval County and that there WILL NOT BE A RECOUNT of the ballots because the 72-hour time limit for challenging the count has passed. (This was from the female director/whatever of the Elections Commission in Duval County, who said that the ballots could not be subject to the same kind of inspection being seen in the other counties to the south because the 72-hour time limit had just passed....) In other words, the Democrats are getting a third count in heavily-Democrat counties because they hustled into town with their lawyers and filed at least 8 lawsuits and screamed and squawked that their peoples had been "discriminated against." Though they've changed the grounds for their complaints several times--see earlier FUD points--this "held the door open" for the manual scrutiny of the "chads" and "indentations" and "voter intent" we're now seeing in the precincts the Democrats are having re-re-counted. The Republicans, on the other hand, took the results as a done deal and thus have let the 72-hour deadline in Duval County (and other such counties, one presumes) pass. "You snooze, you lose." Ah, America. Where the true victors are lawyers. And where the Democrats will likely steal the election by getting "a third bite of the apple." Fucked up, yes. --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
At 08:34 PM 11/10/00 -0600, Phaedrus wrote:
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 auto9950013@hushmail.com wrote:
Tim May, the heavily armed hate monger who refers to ZOG, and , his
extreme
right wing malitia friends have missed there chance.
So is "malitia" a bunch of bad soldiers?
No, malicious. -- A quote from Petro's Archives: ********************************************** "Despite almost every experience I've ever had with federal authority, I keep imagining its competence." John Perry Barlow
At 04:32 AM 11/11/00 -0500, Bill Stewart wrote:
(And apparently there _has_ been a certain amount of malfeasance in handling the mail ballots, though it's not clear the P.O. were directly involved. And the Postmaster General's on the succession list, at least in the 1947 version.) Thanks! Bill
Shouldn't the election officials post a list of the unique IDs of ballots they have received, so that you could check that the Postman didn't toss your ballot? Am I missing a privacy concern? The other method is to write someone in for some race and then check that they were recorded.
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