From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@athena.mit.edu> From: Sy Verpunc <svp@gtoal.com> (Graham Toal) Thats what people have *always wanted* to do. RSA won't let them. That's why any talk of a newer friendlier Bizdos is bullshit. Have you actually tried? *I* don't need to. PKP don't have a patent in Britain. Several people from RSA, including Bidzos at the last Cypherpunks meeting at Mountain View (I wasn't there, but take a look at the meeting "minutes"), have stated repeatedly that if someone were to ask for permission to use the internal interfaces of RSAREF in order to write a PGP-compatible program, they would grant permission. That's *NOT* what we want to do. We have perfectly good code that we trust already, called pgp. We're offering to pay a patent licence for pgp, not some RSADEF-derived code with DES that we don't trust. Hell, *I* would even pay a license fee for pgp and I'm not even legally obliged to... However, as of two weeks ago, *NOT* *A* *SINGLE* *PERSON* *HAS* *ASKED*. Because that's the wrong question. G