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Apparently one of Tim's neighbors is on the Other Side.... At 11:42 PM 09/17/2001 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
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I hope, in light of this terrible tragedy, that Dan Gillmor will cease his whining about personal privacy and recognize that our national security and the safety of our citizens override his concern about privacy, ``We have been tested before and survived: Don't let criminals shut down our freedoms'' (Aug. 12). The government absolutely must have the ability to monitor all encrypted messages, and anyone sending or receiving encrypted messages on our soil that cannot be decoded by the appropriate federal agency must be subject to arrest and seizure of the encryption equipment. We are at war, and we all, including Gillmor, need to recognize that. Al Colby Corralitos
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At 01:32 AM 9/18/01 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote:
Apparently one of Tim's neighbors is on the Other Side....
freedoms'' (Aug. 12). The government absolutely must have the ability to
monitor all encrypted messages, and anyone sending or receiving encrypted messages on our soil that cannot be decoded by the appropriate federal agency must be subject to arrest and seizure of the encryption equipment. We are at war, and we all, including Gillmor, need to recognize that. Al Colby Corralitos
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So Al's grandma who forgets to kill her pre-war copy of Netscape logs onto an oversease website still supporting SSL aand ends up in Leavenworth making little ones out of big ones. BTW, the perps used their real names and IDs and Osama doesn't even use a telephone. He communicates using couriers from his family's clan. DCF
Putting aside encryption for a moment, the real stand-outs in the "Hotline" survey Declan posted are the 54% who replied that they would attack suspects even if they have no proof they did it, the 32% who would "put Arabs and Arab-Americans under special surveillance" and the astonishing 32% "very confident" and 42% "somewhat confident" that "national and local law enforcement can stop terrorist plots". I don't think that half the the people of the USA are militarist bigots living in Cloud-Cuckoo Land, but if I did this wouldn't disabuse me. Ken Brown
On Tuesday, September 18, 2001, at 01:32 AM, Bill Stewart wrote:
Apparently one of Tim's neighbors is on the Other Side....
At 11:42 PM 09/17/2001 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
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http://www0.mercurycenter.com/premium/business/docs/bizletters16.htm Headline inflammatory 2001-09-17 05:45:23
I hope, in light of this terrible tragedy, that Dan Gillmor will cease his whining about personal privacy and recognize that our national security and the safety of our citizens override his concern about privacy, ``We have been tested before and survived: Don't let criminals shut down our freedoms'' (Aug. 12). The government absolutely must have the ability to monitor all encrypted messages, and anyone sending or receiving encrypted messages on our soil that cannot be decoded by the appropriate federal agency must be subject to arrest and seizure of the encryption equipment. We are at war, and we all, including Gillmor, need to recognize that. Al Colby Corralitos
Thanks, Bill, for the heads-up, --Tim May, Corralitos
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